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Can anybody offer advice on the best method of gluing etched brass badges and decorations onto painted surfaces?
The wooden surfaces are painted with acrylics and I am using medium superglue on a toothpick.
I always seem to get a small amount of glue squeezing out of the sides and when I try to clean it off, the paint gets marked. As a lot of these decorations are extremely small and/or fiddly, it has got quite messy on a couple of occasions. I have tried cleaning up around the emblems with an earbud dipped in white spirit.
Tweezers, a (reasonably) steady hand and magnifiers don't seem to be the answer I'm looking for.
If anyone can help I would be grateful.
Goddo
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You could use Superglue Gel (such as Loctite Power Flex) which is more controllable and can apply far less.
Also ensure that the reverse side of the PE part has been rubbed with a fine emery paper abrasive so as to give the PE surface a good key for bonding.
In terms of placing small PE parts, many modellers use a PE pick-up tool such as this item....
http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=6140
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There are lots of different ways to fix etch and I am sure others will recommend there favorites but here are a few suggestions:- Use the same colour paint your sticking the etch too as a fixative. Use a pva glue like a clear canopy adhesive. The latest C/A type glue is a product called Flexy 5K CA Glue For Photo Etch VMS the main problem with ordinary C/A is it has no wiggle room and its instant so as you try to reposition it spreads and makes a mess the above glue has some wiggle so allows better positioning. Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Thank you for the prompt replies, guys.
This always a good place to come for advice. Really appreciate it.
It seems that the pick-up tools are in very short supply at the moment.
I have got a couple on back order.
Goddo
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Yes, thanks Tomick. I saw those on Amazon but I have managed to get hold of the original recommendations now. I have just tried the other brilliant idea of sticking the decoration using the original base paint. Just waiting for it to dry properly before testing how well it has stuck.
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goddo wrote:Yes, thanks Tomick. I saw those on Amazon but I have managed to get hold of the original recommendations now. I have just tried the other brilliant idea of sticking the decoration using the original base paint. Just waiting for it to dry properly before testing how well it has stuck. It's a method used but it does risk that over time the paint lets go and the PE pings off. Remember to clean the tips in warm soapy water now and then to maintain the stick.
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Tomick wrote:goddo wrote:Yes, thanks Tomick. I saw those on Amazon but I have managed to get hold of the original recommendations now. I have just tried the other brilliant idea of sticking the decoration using the original base paint. Just waiting for it to dry properly before testing how well it has stuck. It's a method used but it does risk that over time the paint lets go and the PE pings off. Remember to clean the tips in warm soapy water now and then to maintain the stick.
Yes, I thought that could possibly happen but I was thinking of maybe giving the whole area a coat of clear matt lacquer. Do you think that would help to keep things in place?
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goddo wrote:Tomick wrote:goddo wrote:Yes, thanks Tomick. I saw those on Amazon but I have managed to get hold of the original recommendations now. I have just tried the other brilliant idea of sticking the decoration using the original base paint. Just waiting for it to dry properly before testing how well it has stuck. It's a method used but it does risk that over time the paint lets go and the PE pings off. Remember to clean the tips in warm soapy water now and then to maintain the stick.
Yes, I thought that could possibly happen but I was thinking of maybe giving the whole area a coat of clear matt lacquer. Do you think that would help to keep things in place? There should be no reason why Superglue gel won't do the trick or as Andy has mentioned, a PVA canopy glue.
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I usually anneal the etch parts to take out the springiness, sand the back part to give the glue something to bite onto and then I use future floor polish-not sure what it is called in UK (maybe pledge floor care?.It is a clear acrylic.I either airbrush or brush it onto the area,attach the part and then give it 24 hours to dry.I then put a second coat of the future over the part and wait 24 hours again.If you want a glossy finish you are all set.If you want a matt finish then you can spray a matt sealer over the area
Carl
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