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Hi guys I have started shaping the lower 10mm main mast dowel - I have the 5mm square and the section below that shaped but I am confused what to do next.  !! I am having trouble working the next area of filing. I can see that the front of the main mast is filed over the length of the 127mm area but not sure what to do with the left and right sides. Help please You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
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Hi riff-raff!  NO mate! below the 8mm squared area the front flat part you file 188mm long 5mm wide along it's length, the two sides you file 127mm long starting 8mm wide at the top and taper down to 3mm wide at the bottom.
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Thanks - I think I understand You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
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Golden Star, English Brig. RMS Titanic. (Academy 1/400 Centenary Anniversary Edition) Revell-Monogram 1/48 B-29 Superfortress 1:8 Baron von Richthofen's Fokker Tri-plane. HMS Victory. Nelsons Flag Ship. Sultan Arab Dhow. Artesania Latina Carmen II. The Battleship Yamato. Model Airways Wright Flyer 1:16 Scale. Trumpeter Bismarck 1/200. HMS Sovereign of the Seas. The Black Pearl.
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Well riff-raff perhaps this will make thing's clear. Son of Bulwark attached the following image(s):
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Hi Darren,
(Don't meen to hi-jack the thread)
But that's an excellent explanation. I was struggling to picture the tapered flat so just what I needed.
Thanks!
Wilfy
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darren drawings is correct the only way to get aflat 8mmto3mm over 127mm is to taper a flat it check the drawing at the cross section at the start of the taper bottom of the square
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Hi MWG! I did see you post before it was removed!  The squared area at the top of the mast is 8mm x 8mm x 68mm with the corners rounded and a 5mm x 5mm x 5mm square on top. If you have done this right the flat area of the squared part would have about 6mm wide flat area with 1mm on each side still rounded (untouched part of the dowel) that will make the 8mm square section. The front 188mm flat area is 5mm wide to take the 5mm x 2mm rubbing paunch. The mast has a flat taper below the square section on each side going from 8mm at the top going to 3mm at the bottom 127mm below the squared area. It is on this section the cheeks and hounds fit. Here is another graphic to show how the mast will look before fitting the cheeks, hounds and rubbing paunch. Son of Bulwark attached the following image(s):
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I think what MWG meant, is that for clarity the lower mast is not tapered around its full circumference, obviously your graphic is 2D not 3D.
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Hi Tomick! If that is what you want to believe then OK! I read his post and that was not what he meant, the information I was giving was wrong and the drawings were wrong. Some people can't read tech drawings, not even simplified one's, I gave both top and side views which didn't show the taper on the mast going around the circumference of the mast but the taper was shown as a shaded area on the side of the mast. I don't know what can be done to be any clearer than that. Yes the graphics are in 2D and not 3D, I for one wouldn't like to do 3D graphics or 3D animations, but it would be nice if you had 3D graphics of the week’s parts that you could turn around to get different views and zoom in or out to see exactly how parts should look when finished. Dream On Darron! It won't happen! I'm not out to make trouble. Like you Tomick! I'm just trying to help other's who need some extra help.
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if the main drawing gave a front view instead of two side views it would be a lot clearer
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Son of Bulwark wrote: Hi Tomick! Yes the graphics are in 2D and not 3D, I for one wouldn't like to do 3D graphics or 3D animations, but it would be nice if you had 3D graphics of the week’s parts that you could turn around to get different views and zoom in or out to see exactly how parts should look when finished. Dream On Darron! It won't happen! I agrea 3D graphics would be an asset on any modeling instructions and forums. I have not seen any on any modeling forum yet. Deag could have a first here if the read these posts. It would be a feather in their cap.  There are plenty of programs to do this and even estate agents use a form of it. Yes, I will also dream on as I read all the help a beginer like me gets and needs on this forum  First Build HMS Victory and HMS Endeavour Also Krick steam boat "Victoria" Cheers Ivan (Ordinary Seaman) http://www.old-glossop.com
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Son of Bulwark wrote: Hi Tomick! If that is what you want to believe then OK! I read his post and that was not what he meant, I'm not out to make trouble, Like you Tomick! I'm just trying to help other's who need some extra help. We all have to be careful how we read other peoples posts, at first glance on reading the above, I thought you were saying that Tomick is out to make trouble! Ship Builds on the go
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Hi Son of Bulwark
Brilliant graphics you've come up with to describe the issues involved on the mast. They've helped me to read the magazine instructions much, much better. I really appreciate the effort you have gone to to produce these very clear drawings. The positive input on this forum just gets better and better. Thank you for your help.
Happy building
Daffy09
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Thank you Lonestar Spirit!  I've corrected that so no possibility of it being misread now, Tomick is a good friend to all! and I would hate to cause offense to him in any way. So I will say SORRY! to Tomick  and anyone how might have misread the post. Again Thanks Lonestar!
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No worries, I was on my first mug of coffee and sig, and had to read it a few times, along with everything else I read! Also it's great to see you meant it another way, and still took the opportunity to say sorry for any harm done, Well done mate!!! Ship Builds on the go
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