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Thanks Jonny and foz for your nice comments   Foz I purchased the Balsa wood from my local model shop, but you can buy a bundle from Hobbycraft, I hope that helps MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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nice use of the balsa there MWG your canons look nice and shiny will you be blackening them or keeping them as is
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I will either use black or a dirty green/black/ gold look if you know what I mean   Like this:- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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If it was me, I would think twice before going for the green look. The cannon in the picture is a spanish bronze cannon and goes that colour because of the copper in the alloy. As far as I can find out, the 4 pounder cannon on Endeavour would have been iron guns. Any gunner worth his salt had his own 'formula' for a blacking which was applied to the cannon to prevent any rusting. I would suggest a dull, metallic black finish. Mike T
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As usual Mike your advice is excellent and timely, I will go for that colour on the guns thank you On another topic I am going to purchase the ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT from De Ag it is 1/50 scale and will complement the ENDEAVOUR which is 1/48 scale and of course the quality and detail will be much better than the one that comes with the build MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Thanks Mike, on second thoughts...I'll stick to the copper paint... Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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If I've read this right there seem's to be some confusion, Mike T is talking about a canon rather a copper hull.
For a hull verdigris effect, there are specific 'verdigris effect' paint kits available, and for the same effect on copper tiles, there is a patination fluid which gives a verdigris effect.
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Sorry about that! Had my second cup of tea and woken up now! Should have read Jonny's reply more carefully.  Tomick has cleared the confusion! Cannons matt black and copper hull with copper paint or a verdigris finish - unless of course you are going for the real copper!!  Mike T
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I am not happy with the cannons supplied on this build by eagle moss, the cradle is to big and not in scale and the trucks are out of proportion, the cannon itself is poor Quality. I will purchase new guns and carriages, will keep you posted MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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mwg mate,I affraid I have to disagree with you the scale of the cannon and truck,don't forget it is 1/48th.although I agree with the quality,I think a reasonable job could be made of them. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Hi Karl, when the gun is fitted to the carriage, there is to much space between the barrel and the side of the carriage (the carriage is poor quality cast in metel) I am afraid for my Endeavour I will fit a better more accurate product,I was told before I started the build that I would find some parts lacking in quality, this is only my opinion, but I appreciate your point of view mate  MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Hi MWG, have you thought of constructing your own gun carriage out of wood mate? Knowing your flare for detail,I reckon you could create something far better??  Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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Now that might not be a bad idea, thanks for that suggestion Jonny MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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On the AL site the scale of 1/35 is incorrect and should read 1/50, so De Ag discription is correct as usual. http://www.historicships...ndeavourLong%20Boat.htm Please check this link. MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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hi mwg,there's something wrong here with the scale size,according to my quick calculation,1/50scale x163/4" equates to 65foot er bit long?I will have a look around,1/35 scale I make about 40foot,sounds more like it.but me not an expert on longboats. http://www.artesanialati...ichadetalle.php?id=1267
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MWG wrote:On the AL site the scale of 1/35 is incorrect and should read 1/50, so De Ag discription is correct as usual. http://www.historicships...ndeavourLong%20Boat.htm Please check this link. Certainly is 1/50 Tomick attached the following image(s):
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What happened to willie`s post,saying he thought the Endeavour long boat was 1/35 and not 1/50 has he deleted it? Ships!!!!!--------I see no ships MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Thanks Mr T for that photo, on the AL site they even say the Victory is 1/35 scale MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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I take it you will be putting it on board the endeavour??? Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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