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Ant62
#1 Posted : 21 November 2019 09:08:05

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Help wanted

Yesterday our puppy got into the back bedroom as the door must have been open...

Anyway i require help.....

I have been planking the bow area and working my way down to the keel then disaster struck.
Our pup as chewed the bow and some ribs so how can i get replacement sections...
They are ribs 13-14 15-16 19 also some of the small bow pieces......

Also can anybody tell me what magazine number these parts are with....

I cant put up a picture of the damage as im using a spare phone while my new one is awaiting delivery......
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#2 Posted : 21 November 2019 10:52:22

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Ant62 wrote:
Help wanted

Yesterday our puppy got into the back bedroom as the door must have been open...

Anyway i require help.....

I have been planking the bow area and working my way down to the keel then disaster struck.
Our pup as chewed the bow and some ribs so how can i get replacement sections...
They are ribs 13-14 15-16 19 also some of the small bow pieces......

Also can anybody tell me what magazine number these parts are with....

I cant put up a picture of the damage as im using a spare phone while my new one is awaiting delivery......


Guessing that the puppy is well and truly in the "Dog House", but that`s puppies for you. If it fits in their mouth it gets chewed.Blink Blink

Anyway, from your info I think you need issues 2, 3, 4, 5 and 7 plus maybe issue 1.

There is some good news though. BigGrin

I have all the wooden parts for issues 1, 2 and 3 that you can have for the cost of postage.

You may get 4, 5 and 7 on ebay.

Send me a PM with your address and I`ll get them off to you.


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#3 Posted : 21 November 2019 10:55:39

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Cheers delboy PM on its way...
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#4 Posted : 21 November 2019 15:04:14

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Cheers delboy PM on its way...


The parts I can help with are on their way.BigGrin

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#5 Posted : 21 November 2019 15:50:34
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Derek, you rock! Thanks for helping save the puppy from certain death!😂😂😂
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#6 Posted : 22 November 2019 16:21:50

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The puppy is literally in the dog house LOL

Anyway turns out that the door lock is faulty....


Managed an hr on thursday removing bits of damage a piece at a time its time consuming....
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#7 Posted : 22 November 2019 18:06:50

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Ant62 wrote:
The puppy is literally in the dog house LOL

Anyway turns out that the door lock is faulty....


Managed an hr on thursday removing bits of damage a piece at a time its time consuming....



Wishing you all the best for the repair job and very happy to hear that the pup appears to have been given a reprieve. BigGrin


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#8 Posted : 23 November 2019 12:47:03

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Well im down to the ribs now and removed the damaged planks after another 2hrs...

With the parts from delboy it looks possible to glue and clamp new pieces of ribs next to the old ones some pieces i will have to make and shape and then use some form of 2pac filler.......

Anybody any ideas of a decent 2pac filler that is solid once dried and easy to sand and take a pin to hold a plank whilst the glue dries......
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#9 Posted : 23 November 2019 19:19:04

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Hi Ant, BigGrin

Good to see you are on the route to recovery of your Vic.Cool

I don`t know if the information in the link below may help, but take a look as you may be able to adapt the method I used to repair a rouge part.

https://forum.model-spac...aspx?g=posts&t=6764

If I can be of further assistance on the repair I used, let me know and we`ll see what we can do. The repair I used allowed the rib to take planking pins without a problem.

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#10 Posted : 23 November 2019 19:37:34

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delboy271155 wrote:
Hi Ant, BigGrin

Good to see you are on the route to recovery of your Vic.Cool

I don`t know if the information in the link below may help, but take a look as you may be able to adapt the method I used to repair a rouge part.

https://forum.model-spac...aspx?g=posts&t=6764

If I can be of further assistance on the repair I used, let me know and we`ll see what we can do. The repair I used allowed the rib to take planking pins without a problem.

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Cheers for the link i will have a look later when the missus hits catch up tv for an hr.....

Im 7 layers of planking up from the lower gun ports,so what i have done is to snip the damaged planking down the sides of the ribs leaving a small piece still attached to the rib.
I then use my scalpel blade to run down the join edge of the two planks and slowly pick away the glue...
So basically starboard and the port side have staggered edges.
The curved bow im using the pieces you sent Del and carefully under cut a mm so i can sand...
That is working for me so far.
The bow pieces i have realsed is i make a card template i can work from them..
Its become easier than expected tbh..
The bow is the hardest but im in no rush....
I also have two bent planks ive made for the bow to help aswell....

I have most of sunday to myself so im hoping to have the bow front damaged pieces marked and cut if not just marked ready....
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#11 Posted : 23 November 2019 19:46:08

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Ant62 wrote:
delboy271155 wrote:
Hi Ant, BigGrin

Good to see you are on the route to recovery of your Vic.Cool

I don`t know if the information in the link below may help, but take a look as you may be able to adapt the method I used to repair a rouge part.

https://forum.model-spac...aspx?g=posts&t=6764

If I can be of further assistance on the repair I used, let me know and we`ll see what we can do. The repair I used allowed the rib to take planking pins without a problem.

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delboy271155
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Cheers for the link i will have a look later when the missus hits catch up tv for an hr.....

Im 7 layers of planking up from the lower gun ports,so what i have done is to snip the damaged planking down the sides of the ribs leaving a small piece still attached to the rib.
I then use my scalpel blade to run down the join edge of the two planks and slowly pick away the glue...
So basically starboard and the port side have staggered edges.
The curved bow im using the pieces you sent Del and carefully under cut a mm so i can sand...
That is working for me so far.
The bow pieces i have realsed is i make a card template i can work from them..
Its become easier than expected tbh..
The bow is the hardest but im in no rush....
I also have two bent planks ive made for the bow to help aswell....

I have most of sunday to myself so im hoping to have the bow front damaged pieces marked and cut if not just marked ready....



Be like the tortoise "Slow and steady wins the race" BigGrin

Good luck.

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Ant62
#12 Posted : 23 November 2019 19:47:33

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Exactly..LOL
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#13 Posted : 24 November 2019 20:02:46

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Well quite a productive day today without any hinderence from the missus or the puppy (Logan).
I have managed 2hrs here and 2hrs there today..
I bought some of the ronseal 2pac wood filler and i intend to use it to fill chewed edges..

Anyway ive cut a few of the spare pieces from Del and glued and clamped them next to the existing keel..
Also ive cut n shaped a few pieces for the damaged bow sections and another few hours and they will be glued and clamped......

So far so good.......
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#14 Posted : 25 November 2019 09:39:37

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Found a major problem last night the front bow former as a split running central cant believe i never seen the split when i started..Mad

Im looking to see if i can remove the whole bow former and replace it..
Will replacing the bow former be a hard task as i have not looked at it since yesterday evening......



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#15 Posted : 25 November 2019 10:36:20

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Ant62 wrote:
Found a major problem last night the front bow former as a split running central cant believe i never seen the split when i started..Mad

Im looking to see if i can remove the whole bow former and replace it..
Will replacing the bow former be a hard task as i have not looked at it since yesterday evening......





Hi Ant

I`m assuming from what you say that the bow former can`t be glued and clamped till set, so firstly what adhesive have you used on the bow former originally?

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#16 Posted : 25 November 2019 10:50:54

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Ive been using gorilla wood glue.....

Ive an idea though...

The front bow former you sent if i cut it level across the top of the bow formers and then glue and clamp that to the existing front bow former that should make it solid.
Then the bow formers if i remove the thickness of the front bow former from them then that would not in any way change the bow length.....

I then Just require bow formers 10, 11, 11a.......

Hope that makes sense.........
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#17 Posted : 25 November 2019 11:22:11

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Ant62 wrote:
Ive been using gorilla wood glue.....

Ive an idea though...

The front bow former you sent if i cut it level across the top of the bow formers and then glue and clamp that to the existing front bow former that should make it solid.
Then the bow formers if i remove the thickness of the front bow former from them then that would not in any way change the bow length.....

I then Just require bow formers 10, 11, 11a.......

Hope that makes sense.........


If my memory serves me well gorilla wood glue does not release easily, so a repair would be the quickest method.

That said the method you have noted above could bring some issues later on in the build. Could you post a pic of the damage you are trying to repair to see if there are any alternative solutions.

In the mean time I would get some of the aliphatic wood glue shown in the link below. Its a very good adhesive, but if required can be released with very hot water applied just to the joint.

https://www.jperkins.com/products/MDP5524821


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#18 Posted : 25 November 2019 11:25:27

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I cant post any photos until my phone comes back from samsung which i thought would have been saturday so im hoping its today......

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#19 Posted : 25 November 2019 11:46:33

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Ant62 wrote:
I cant post any photos until my phone comes back from samsung which i thought would have been saturday so im hoping its today......



I`d hold off for know until you can post a pic or two as you don`t want to get maybe months down the line to find out there`s another problem to solve.

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#20 Posted : 25 November 2019 15:19:11

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Oh i may aswell just give up.....Mad Mad

Just not my day at all now.....Mad
I brought victory downstairs onto the kitchen table to have a good look etc and i ended up dropping the darn thing..Mad
Lost my footing on the first step down and my knee gave way and try to grab the hand rail with my good hand when she went into orbit hitting the hard floor at the bottom.....
All i need.....

Damage report coming....
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