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Quite a horror show tbh with the damage.... Ive cut away all the bits a the forward bulkhead is exposed without any bow formers showing.. Sorry Del but i will require entire new bow formers as some of the replacements where damaged and the slotted parts into the forward bulk head where in the slots so i had to cut thecout carefully with the scalpel tedious but had to be done...... So bow formers 8, 9 10, 11, 11a are required if its not possible then i may have to find some balsa sheet and carefully cut them out..... Im now working out where to cutting planking as the top row ends at rib 17.... The split i thought that ran down the front bulk head turned out to be a pencil mark....must get my eyes tested.... Ant62 attached the following image(s): Building.
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I have removed the first plank on both sides as it goes back to rib 17 and i have taped up the area where plank 17 was to protect the decking edge and the other exposed ribs also i have taped where i intend to stop..... I have marked the rib 17s to where the planks butt up and im going to try and removed them carefully with my scalpel.... I have located a dealer that sells 4mm balsa sheets and balsa blocks and will use the sheets to fabricate the bow formers.... So im going to start to remove these planks carefully... Ant62 attached the following image(s): Building.
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Well that worked out better than i orignally thought... As you can see ive worked to the staggered plank system and dont really want to cut more off.... Just the other side to work on now..... Ant62 attached the following image(s): Building.
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Hi Ant, First an apology as I'm having to view this on my phone. My broadband crashed yesterday and is still awaiting a fix. Looks like things are improving but fear that 4mm balsa will not have the required strength or be dense enough to take the bow planking. Personally I would use ply as per the original parts. Regards delboy271155 ( Derek ) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Well ive managed to so the otherside the lay out is slightly different but not much.... Tthanks del for the info about balsa strength, i can also get a sheet of 4mm birch modeling ply so i will collect that..... Ant62 attached the following image(s): Building.
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Ant62 wrote:Well ive managed to so the otherside the lay out is slightly different but not much....
Tthanks del for the info about balsa strength, i can also get a sheet of 4mm birch modeling ply so i will collect that.....
Birch ply is a much better choice.  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Anybody enlighten me to as what magazine issues the bow formers where part! The parts are 9, 10, 11, 11a so i might be able to troll around for them.... Building.
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Ant62 wrote:Anybody enlighten me to as what magazine issues the bow formers where part!
The parts are 9, 10, 11, 11a so i might be able to troll around for them.... Bow Former 8 - Issue 1 Bow Former 9 - Issue 3 Bow formers 10, 11 and 11a - Issue 4. This can also be verified via the Official Build: https://forum.model-spac....aspx?g=posts&t=103
Hope this helps. Regards Alan
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I have managed to get my hands on bow formers 10, 11, 11a. I still have the reminants of bow former 9 and seeing that ive ordered a sheet of birch ply i will try and mark and cut out the bow formers number 9. The cutting will have to be done by hand as i dont have the luxury of power tools to do the job..... Building.
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Hi Ant Got my broadband back today  So good to see you are getting the parts together and luckily formers 9 look to be the easier ones to replicate. Good luck Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Just had an email saying he cannot find the parts and he as an inkling now that he may have given them away a while back....  So back to plan b.. Looks like i will have to fabricate my own now, wish me luck on that...... Just take my time...... Building.
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Well i started on making bow formers no9 yesterday and after a slight cockup and started again i managed to make two of them only took 3hrs..... Hardwork by hand....... Any way today im onto bow formers no10...... I make them 2mm slightly bigger on the curve and rub them down to the pencil line.... Look good so far...... Building.
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Good to see you have managed to recover from the damage. Tony Happy Modelling
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All forward bow formers have be made and sanded. The spare front bulk head came in handy to test if they fitted or not and they look good..... Going to fit them on lto the ships frame and if they look ok glue them.... Down side is  Ive been checking the planking that i already did on the sides and tbh i think im going to hit a tricky patch.... I have some plank off cuts so ive been slotting them into the areas i cut out and it seems the planks i have are slightly wider. So do i sand the plank edge to fit or do i remove more planking right back on both sides to the stern... Im going to have to have a major rethink  on this....... Dropping the ship as caused more pronlems than first thought..... Building.
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Corel Albatross 1840......Completed
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Ant62 wrote:All forward bow formers have be made and sanded. The spare front bulk head came in handy to test if they fitted or not and they look good..... Going to fit them on lto the ships frame and if they look ok glue them.... Down side is Ive been checking the planking that i already did on the sides and tbh i think im going to hit a tricky patch.... I have some plank off cuts so ive been slotting them into the areas i cut out and it seems the planks i have are slightly wider. So do i sand the plank edge to fit or do i remove more planking right back on both sides to the stern... Im going to have to have a major rethink on this....... Dropping the ship as caused more pronlems than first thought..... Hi Ant,  The front planking is not a problem that can`t be solved, but to get the best advise to help, you really need to post some pics. People can`t see what you see without them and that makes any advise guesswork at best. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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