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#61 Posted : 17 January 2021 00:07:43

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Another very nice update Budgie, she's certainly taking shape now..... excellent work....Drool Drool

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Alan
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#62 Posted : 17 January 2021 14:57:43

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Hi Budgie

Your build is looking really good and I'm getting quite a few tips from it - thanks, mate....BigGrin

I see your model has a cruiser type stern - same as mine - so I will be watching to see how you clad it...Blink

I'm currently working on the rudder and rudder support frame and will be posting in a few days...BigGrin

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John Passmore wrote:
Hi Budgie

I see your model has a cruiser type stern - same as mine - so I will be watching to see how you clad it...Blink


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Hi John
had a wee play about with the stern

I see what you mean

The angle of the bow will not allow the planks to lie flush unless I use very thin strips

Think I will be laying the 2nd planking as near to the bow as possible without trying to bend the planks around it

As she will be getting painted I will use a filler or putty or sawdust mixed with glue to fill the gap between each side of the planks around the bow and sand to shape

Looking forward to your next update
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#64 Posted : 17 January 2021 20:11:55

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Hi taking shape very nicely with you well for the rest of the build cheers mick.BigGrin
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#65 Posted : 23 January 2021 17:46:42

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BigGrin Evening Folks
Thanks for posting Mick appreciated

I re enlarged the fwd deck template and was a bit disappointed that there is a good sized gap
Hey HOBored

Decided to start the laying of planks ...I will call this the 1st layer of planking as it is being layed on the outer frames
(previous ones were flush with frames)

I will double plank where the armour belt is to be replicated

Just using elastic bands and drawing pins to hold in place at the moment

No doubt where the planks are more springy they will need to have pins pushed through the actual planks to hold them in place

Plan is once 1st planking completed sanding and filler used to produce a smooth hull
Thanks for lookin'
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#66 Posted : 23 January 2021 17:54:26

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I hope your loved one doesn't follow your channel or you might be in deep water LOL.
Regardless, your hull is coming along just fine now. Waiting patiently for the start of the superstructure and fittings.
Happy building
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#67 Posted : 31 January 2021 07:55:47

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budgie wrote:
BigGrin Evening Folks
Thanks for posting Mick appreciated

I re enlarged the fwd deck template and was a bit disappointed that there is a good sized gap
Hey HOBored

Decided to start the laying of planks ...I will call this the 1st layer of planking as it is being layed on the outer frames
(previous ones were flush with frames)

I will double plank where the armour belt is to be replicated

Just using elastic bands and drawing pins to hold in place at the moment

No doubt where the planks are more springy they will need to have pins pushed through the actual planks to hold them in place

Plan is once 1st planking completed sanding and filler used to produce a smooth hull
Thanks for lookin'


Hi Budgie

You're doing a really nice job on the hull...BigGrin I not the curve on your stern is much tighter tan the one on mine which is a bit broader and longer...but you are overcoming the problem very well...Cool

I will use Pollyfiller too but I had to go and buy mine as the missus didn't have it in her kit...LOL

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#68 Posted : 31 January 2021 21:14:41

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BigGrin Evening folks

Only got a wee bit of the planking done this week

LOL SWMBO "cracked" a smile so had to hand back her foundationLOL

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#69 Posted : 02 February 2021 07:54:53

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budgie wrote:
BigGrin Evening folks

Only got a wee bit of the planking done this week

LOL SWMBO "cracked" a smile so had to hand back her foundationLOL


Hi Budgie

She's coming along really well now. Shall be watching to see how you do the "hard bits" around the bow and stern...BigGrin

I've a little more progress with my build too...BigGrin

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#70 Posted : 10 February 2021 17:42:07

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BigGrin Hi Folks
Crying Still making slow progress

Glue takes a long time to dry in this cold weather

Crying Glue dries clear but still white when I go out to the shed the following evening

Mind u I have been using a generous amount of glue for each plankLOL

Started removing the stern filled in area, to refill once planking done

Anyhoos pics moving towards bow and stern
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#71 Posted : 02 April 2021 16:27:43

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BigGrin Hi Folks
been furloughed for a few weeks so decided to replace my shed

The old one leaked quite badly....yeah built it myselfFlapper tried repairing but came back to haunt me

I unscrewed all the tongue and groove planks and used them to "double plank" the inside of the new shed

I would have preferred to have painted inside a lighter colour but covering a very dark wood stain would require a few tins of paint

No way should the roof leak now as i used rubber instead of feltCool

Anyhoos thought I would post pics of my new den as it will never be this tidy again

Cool The table tops and drawers were saved from going in the works skip

Looks like if I want to do any sanding I will need to wait till SWMBO goes to the shops so I can do it in the kitchenLOL
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#72 Posted : 02 April 2021 19:55:47

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That is a beautiful job on the shed Budgie! Looks great and is about four times the size of my attic workroom!Crying
There is so much good stuff wasted and sent to land fill even in these days of recycling! When I built my original workroom on to the back of Dad's garage many years ago, Dad was the Head of Security in the then Plymouth Polytechnic (now a University) Student Union building. The roof panels were made from perfectly good Polytechnic blackboards - they had decided to replace all the traditional blackboards with green ones! Then they complain about government funding shortages!
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#73 Posted : 10 April 2021 10:57:32

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BigGrin Morning' Folks

Moving all my bits back into the shed and checking how far I have gotten on the Gneisensau

Placing a hull template shows I am way outConfused

I don't understandCrying as I have not adjusted any off the slots on the false decks or frames to make them fit

Ah well I will start again (at least this time I will be building the same model)LOL

Take care Folks and thanks for lookin'

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Not wanting to cover the den in sawdust just yet so using card just to see if I end up with same problem with gap on fwd deck and gundeck opening not quite rained up
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#75 Posted : 17 April 2021 08:55:35

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Its such a shame to see you having to start again and sincerely hope you can identify the reasons for ending up with a gap on the stern deck section. Will be following as usual....Cool Cool Cool

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Alan
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Hi Budgie,
Not quite sure if there is a connection here, because I have no knowledge of this model at all....
The discrepancy in the template looks to be about the same as the gap in the deck to me.
Could something have "slipped" during construction? Or am I being naive?
Cheers
Chris
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BigGrin Thanks for comments Guy's

As I did not have to alter the position of any slots for the horizontal decks to slot into the frames i cannot fathom out why there is such a big misalignment.

Maybe I am being too pernicketyLOL

I have gone and confused myself even further by:

As the Gniesenau is the sister ship of the Scharnhorst

and they were both 144.6M long

i have found that the 1/100 scale plan I purchased for Scharnhorst is a couple of centimetres longer than what I have built so far on the Gniesenau

Which is more accurate? the plan or the card model? need to get my measuring stick out

The plan is 150cm long so the Scharnhorst has grown 5.4M Cursing

But the card model is pretty much bang onCool length wiseCool

Maybe the UPPER frame templates were not as square as I thought or perhaps the thickness of the mdf has made the differenceConfused

Ah well I like seeing the skeleton come togetherLove

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#78 Posted : 19 April 2021 01:07:09

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Hi Budgie

I'm in Tasmania for a few weeks and have just caught up with things...Blink

I had the same problem of a a gap of about 5mm between the two deck plate joints. I fixed that by placing a plate across the seam, which joins the two deck plates nicely...Cool This leaves a little channel the thickness of the ply which I will fill with wood putty then sand down smooth...Cool This join will be covered eventually by the forward part of the superstructure...BigGrin

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