|
|
|
|
Am finding this build very interesting, looks like it will be a lot of fun putting together..... Nice progress Budgie, well done.....  Regards Alan
|
|
|
 Rank: Super-Elite        Groups: Registered
Joined: 31/05/2010 Posts: 5,679 Points: 17,011 Location: Wiltshire
|
This is looking really interesting. So looking forward to seeing how this one develops as its such a technical build having to make every part yourself. Its all looking good at the moment and wish you well with the next stages. Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
|
|
|
 Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/03/2010 Posts: 1,199 Points: 3,473 Location: Glenrothes
|
 Thanks for your interest gents, appreciated Progress so far Cut vertical slits in the frames and keel, they have a smooth to slack fit which I think is better than a tight fit as that may bend the keel The frames have been inserted in their corresponding slots so I can start to see a clearer way forward Double the thickness of all or just a few frames in order to give the "planking" something to stick to Cut horizontal slits in the frames at 2 or 3 levels in which to insert false decks which in turn will help square everything up before gluing False deck sizes can be taken from the half breadth plan Aerial view looking down at the full hull, the lines showing the width of the hull at various depths budgie attached the following image(s):
|
|
|
Rank: Super-Elite Groups: Registered
Joined: 31/05/2010 Posts: 5,679 Points: 17,011 Location: Wiltshire
|
Thats taken on a nice shape now you have all the frames in place. Will your covering (planking) Be card based? Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
|
|
|
Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/03/2010 Posts: 1,199 Points: 3,473 Location: Glenrothes
|
birdaj2 wrote:Thats taken on a nice shape now you have all the frames in place.
Will your covering (planking) Be card based?
Tony Hi Tony Yes I will be using the 1.5mm card (mountboard) to "plank" I think it best to stick card to card using elastic bands to hold the strips in place especially at the curves. Did think about wood but as it is stiffer than card pinning may be required Pushing pins thru the card frames might not be a good idea they may split at edges Downside to the mountboard will be when sanding...the white layer will be removed leaving a rough fluffy finish of the fibres below. Thinking about using the brown kraftcard to second plank to cover this as nice and thin and cheap Also thinking about using very thin wood for 2nd planking but as it also will need sealed before painting it may be an unnecessary expense. Thanks for lookin'
|
|
|
Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/03/2010 Posts: 1,199 Points: 3,473 Location: Glenrothes
|
Morning Folks Checking out the 1/2 breadth plan for making false decks for helping squaring off the frames etc Hopefully by doing this it will save the monotonous task of putting spacers in between the frames to prevent the card from sagging The plan shows the waterline and decks from an aerial view If I want to put a deck in at point iv I cut that shape out and cut slits at the frame positions on the 1/2 breadth and "bulkheads" and just slide them in The plan also shows the shape around the "gunports" which is good as I was a bit concerned realising it was not a square hole Thanks for lookin' budgie attached the following image(s):
|
|
|
Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/03/2010 Posts: 1,199 Points: 3,473 Location: Glenrothes
|
Hi Folks Not posted for a while but just to let u know I haven't given up AGAIN  I dived straight in to cutting out the false decks to act as support for the frames and "planking" 7 1/2 decks each side I cut out the slots where the frames were marked on the 1/2 breadth plan and tried to slide them in to the frames  Didn't fit I had stupidly assumed that as the sheer plan and 1/2 breadth plan came on the same sheet that the distance between each frame would be the same Comparing the plans there is a 4mm difference between frames 2 and 3 which have thrown the rest of my slots out Which one to follow the sheer or 1/2 breadth plan  After spitting my dummy out I am restarting the false decks taking measurements this time 
|
|
|
Rank: Super-Elite Groups: Registered
Joined: 31/05/2010 Posts: 5,679 Points: 17,011 Location: Wiltshire
|
Glad to hear you are keeping at it. Nothing more disappointing than getting a stage nearly complete and it then reveals some issues. But on a positive point that is something you will now be well versed in if you build another model like this. Hope your corrections go really well. Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
|
|
|
Rank: Super-Elite   Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/10/2016 Posts: 4,504 Points: 13,548 Location: Wiltshire
|
Keep at it Budgie! It might be frustrating but the results will be worth it in the end. Regards, Phil W. Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car
Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230]
Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
|
|
|
|
|
You're doing a brilliant job Budgie despite the 'setbacks'! I know what its like with things not lining up, when I was building my card Sopwith Pups I found that copies I scanned were not lining up exactly with the originals. I then discovered that the scanner for some obscure reason had a default copy setting of 97%! Once I realised that I had to set the thing manually to 100% on each separate scan it was fine.  ( I've now upgraded to an Epson all in one scanner/printer and the copy function on that one is 100% as standard - much easier!) I think with your decks, as long as the actual length of the deck fits with your bulkheads and keel I would ignore the frame slots and mark the decks to your own framework for the slots - seems like less work that way! Best of luck! Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
|
|
|
|
|
Model building.... such a rewarding hobby but can be the most frustrating too when something doesn't work out the way it should.... Keep at it Budgie, it will all be worth it in the end.... What you've done to date is looking good.... Regards Alan
|
|
|
Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/03/2010 Posts: 1,199 Points: 3,473 Location: Glenrothes
|
Gandale wrote:Model building.... such a rewarding hobby but can be the most frustrating too when something doesn't work out the way it should.... Keep at it Budgie, it will all be worth it in the end.... What you've done to date is looking good.... Regards Alan Will be keeping at it Alan Not posted on this one for a wee while Was getting embarrassed at my number of attempts to get it right to my satisfaction I was not going to post until I had achieved the hull I wanted and pleased with BUT Watching a quiz show they wanted to know who quoted a phrase which seemed to fit ME and my attitude The question being along the lines of who quoted “Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm” I thought it summed me up perfectly with my number of attempts Failing but enjoying the journey Reminded me of my Dad when I used to volunteer my service (free of charge by the way ) to help out in the garden or house Kind of hoping that I would get my next airfix model from Woolies at the weekend Realising that the task was not as easy that he made it seem and getting disheartened he would mention this bloke called Percy V Rance Took me a few years for that to sink in 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Master  Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/11/2018 Posts: 1,284 Points: 3,878 Location: Southeast UK
|
Alan is right in what he says Stewart, better to rise to the challenge and harness that desire to succeed in order to conquer what is challenging you. It is easier to give in than it is to keep trying, but by eventually succeeding the feeling of satisfaction will be truly immense compared to the feeling of utter dejection if you just give up? Either way, when you look back on your modelling achievements in later years, you will remember this build for good or bad reasons, but if it was me, I'd rather look back and remember that I persevered and conquered and made myself a better modeller because of it?!
Keep going mate, nothing's impossible, you just need to find the solution that makes it possible!  
Kev
Per Ardua Ad Astra
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
US
