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Hi All, 
As there are discussions ongoing about this topic, I have today dug deep into my stash of boxes and taken out the relative parts from issues 15 and 17.
Should and are these parts sided?
My answer is Yes they should be and Yes they are, BUT the difference is minimal so could be easily missed.
I have attached a picture below, that shows the ends of the parts that are hook shaped. There is a slight angle to the end of said hook parts that are indicated by the red lines.
Hope this helps.
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I know I mentioned in another post that the two parts are the same, that was based on looking at my model with these parts assembled.
Because of the way they are fitted, they DO look the same so apologies for my incorrect assessment.
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I got your message Derek but not sure if you'll get the reply as your inbox was full Senna mclaren mp4/4 build complete mp4/4 build http://forum.model-space...spx?g=posts&t=12029
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Steve279021 wrote:I got your message Derek but not sure if you'll get the reply as your inbox was full No problem Steve. Must be a glitch in the system as I only have 4 old messages in my inbox. The important thing is that you got the message. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Admin COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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I have to say that I'm with Graham on this one. The parts in question look exactly the same and they should definitely be sided. I think this is an error because sided parts always seem to have R or L on them even if they are really small. The fact they don't points to the fact that they are the same part and it's also curious that the part comes loose in the bag whereas all the other parts are in the plastic tray which suggests that this part was a later addition. Here are pics of both sides Steve279021 attached the following image(s): Senna mclaren mp4/4 build complete mp4/4 build http://forum.model-space...spx?g=posts&t=12029
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Hi Steve and anyone joining this thread, 
Thankyou Steve for your input, appreciated as always. 
My jury is still out on this one as I had to wait from March until 2 weeks ago to get issue 9. I am now , when I get the time between everything else moving forward with this build.
I am up to issue 13 (completed), so not long hopefully before I can give my informed decision with the parts I have had supplied.
I will therefore respond again on this thread at that time.
Thanks again to Steve for the very clear pictures.
Regards
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I have looked closely at my build again and maybe I'm lucky, but both sides are different. Not the same part.
I suspect it might be someone at the packaging end who doesn't realise the bits are different and are just putting the same part in both packs.
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I think if the a frames weren't installed correctly then the barge board wouldn't have lined up with the front wing. I think it's what roy said, that there are 2 different parts left and right but it looks like myself and Graham have been provided with 2 right side ones, stage 15 should of had a left sided one in. Senna mclaren mp4/4 build complete mp4/4 build http://forum.model-space...spx?g=posts&t=12029
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Steve279021 wrote:I think if the a frames weren't installed correctly then the barge board wouldn't have lined up with the front wing. I think it's what roy said, that there are 2 different parts left and right but it looks like myself and Graham have been provided with 2 right side ones, stage 15 should of had a left sided one in. Hi Steve,
Appreciate your response.
As I said above I fitted the parts without anything in the way, so had not taken into account the barge boards.
Now, I have just looked at the barge board base 15C. Bear with me for a moment because, if the A frame is the wrong way round the difference of the barge board mounting points is small and as the base board is flexible a small amount of flex may cover the problem. QUICK CHECK, put a small straight edge along the underside of the base board 15C and it should be flat along its length. If it is then I would agree that you need a replacement part 15J. If you need a replacement then contact Customer Services for a replacement issue 15. (They won`t send out odd parts)If you have any trouble then PM me on either of my accounts, this one I`m using or "Admin"
Thanks again for your continued input to this issue.
Regards
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Cheers Derek, I'll have another look👍 Senna mclaren mp4/4 build complete mp4/4 build http://forum.model-space...spx?g=posts&t=12029
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