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goddo
#1 Posted : 09 April 2024 12:11:48

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After a good number of years, I am excited to say that I have started my DeAg build of Santisima Trinidad.
The kit has been sitting under my bench for almost five years and the time has arrived when I feel ready to start.
There are a couple of comments at the start of this that I feel are worth a mention. The kit includes a cross section kit as well and the parts issues were all jumbled up so a lot of sorting required at the onset. Secondly, I am not that impressed with the quality of the plywoods that are supplied. They are very fragile and need a lot of attention before using them.The quality and size of the deck planking is so bad (to my picky mind) that I have bought replacement ships . Enough moaning, lets' get on with it.

Contrary to what the DeAg instructions say, I was always taught to get the false keel built flat, horizontal and not twisted. I therefore diverted a bit and built up the keel and ribs from the start, getting everything to my satisfaction.

Starting to separate full build from section build.

The first job was to add temporary "nibs" to the false keel so that I could hold the model in my alignment clamp.



I also used " belt and braces method" of adding small dowel pins through the splice plates to keep everything in place.






\A laser beam along the false keel to check for true.




Tempory placement of floor beams and clamps to help straighten some of the ribs which were moderately distorted. Hot water on the ribs and a gentle blow with a hair dryer soon sorted them out.

Premature deck planking with newly purchased wood strips.


Orlop deck fitted





That's it for now. More very soon.
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#2 Posted : 09 April 2024 13:13:23
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WTG Goddo, ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

Nice to see another ship build on the forum.

Off to a good start. Look forward to the future updates.

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goddo
#3 Posted : 16 April 2024 17:13:10

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This stage of the build is mainly getting decking planked and added to the keel.

Stern keel reinforcements added










Foremost keel reinforcements added.



Forward upper deck planking started.











One of the numerous laser alignment checks.







Upper decks temporary interface with front and rear decks sections







Upper decks finally fitted and aligned.
Now ready for two coiats of stain and finally, a coat of matt varnish.






Martyn Ingram
#4 Posted : 17 April 2024 13:45:33

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[Looking good goddo lovely work ThumpUp
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#5 Posted : 17 April 2024 22:57:39

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Lot of work gone into that, great work.Love Love Drool

Mark
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#6 Posted : 18 April 2024 00:27:11

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Thanks for looking in, Martyn and Mark.
Appreciate the kind comments.
Chris
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#7 Posted : 18 April 2024 09:10:19

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Hi Chris,

How pleased I am to see a wooden ship on the forum again, this is a wonderful build and I wish you well with it.

Will be following

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Trev.
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#8 Posted : 18 April 2024 12:00:12

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Thanks Trev,
I have to admit that after the finish of Victory I felt the need to build something different.
I went off and built wooden cars and Occre tram kits for a while.
I mentioned earlier that this kit had been sitting under my bench since early 2020 and
the lure was so strong that I couldn't resist getting started. I'm really enjoying it so far
although there have been some shocks including the quality of wood for planking. I will admit
that I am using my own instead but the other details, particularly the masts, guns, gun ports and
sails are top quality. Looking ahead I can see that some of the deck grilles and stairs may
get replaced. But I love being back ship building. My diaries are not the best I know, normally
just a series of pics in a fairly chronological order. Apologies for my ineptness in this area.
Chris
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#9 Posted : 06 May 2024 20:45:48

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The next stage in the build was to place all the gunport templates, one of which I managed to destroy! I couldn't source replacements so I made some using 1.5mm balsa wood. Once liberally coated with a mix of water and wood glue they became quite robust.











The following stage was to begin attaching the upper hull section planking.
Only two layers fixed on each side so far.
















I also completed fitting the upper deck grilles but left the ladders until a later date.




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#10 Posted : 02 July 2024 13:13:31

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Quite a bit of work completed on this posting.
Began the first layer of hull planking but didn't use the kit material as it was VERY brittle and split at the slightest touch.





First layer of planking almost complete.










Solid bow block added and started to create the desired shape.




Out of synch with instructions but I began fitting the wales








Gallery lower planking redone.






Began laying the second lower hull planking. Again very brittle but I persevered and thankfully there were enough strips for me to complete the task.












Second planking complete and ready for a light sanding.








The first coat of matt varnish applied. There will be four applications altogether.


Wales painted. Had quite a few ares of "bleed" which took some time to correct.









The final (fourth) coat of matt varnish applied.The pic does not do it justice in my opinion.
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#11 Posted : 02 July 2024 13:36:50

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BigGrin lovely work goddo. Sometimes soaking the brittle planks for a minute or two helps. Stunning work on the varnish Cool

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#12 Posted : 02 July 2024 21:19:58

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Thanks Martyn.
Some of the brittle planks were like trying to use very dry potato crisps BigGrin BigGrin
Appreciate you looking ion.
Chris
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#13 Posted : 09 October 2024 15:14:46

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The vast majority of the photos are self explanatory and need no further comment from me.









The gallery side sections are, in my opinion, probably the worst thing I've done on this ship. After strippng back twice I have given up and decided what will be will be.























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BigGrin lovely work goddo the rear galleries look good to me

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#15 Posted : 09 October 2024 19:26:31

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Really lovely work, excellent.Love Love Drool

Mark
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#16 Posted : 10 October 2024 12:40:18

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Great pictures showing an excellent build. Andy.
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#17 Posted : 10 October 2024 16:19:38

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Thanks for looking in guys
Appreciate your comments Andy, Mark and Martin.
Chris
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#18 Posted : 11 October 2024 09:08:23

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Hi Chris,

What a wonderful build this is becoming, looking through your build I can only say this is a top class build plus the fact Forum needs a ship like this to follow well done Chris keep it up.

I was paticulary interested in the way you scratch build the gunports in Balsa that was cool, also the second planking top work again, is that 0.5 Mahogany to me that has sanded up a treat looks great with the varnish applied, looking forward to seeing more of your build and how you it.

Regards.

Trev.
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#19 Posted : 11 October 2024 12:23:25

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Hi Trev,
Thanks for your kind comments. All much appreciated.

The gun port templates were a necessity I'm afraid as I managed to place the lower three on the floor "for safe keeping" and then rolled my desk chair over them. The process I used was to painstakingly try and pair all the split pieces together and quickly realised that this was pointless. So I removed the already installed opposite templates, and traced them onto a piece of balsa wood. To strengthen them once cut, I laid tissue paper soaked in white glue mix on both sides and when dry I cut out the portholes. This gave my new templates a lot more strength.
However, when I started planking, I soon realised that I had a difference of alignment on each side of the ship. Not much but enough to require a bit of adaptation as I went. In fact even now, I notice the difference of height particularly position of the upper deck gun barrels through the port holes. Hopefully this will not be detectable once the rigging is in place. I notice this "problem" but hopefully others won't (he said!)

As for the second planking on the hull, yes it's 0.5mm thick mahogany and required quite a bit of patience to get as close as I have managed. Also, sanding already wafer thin timber strips without going through them was a challenge. I am pleased with the end result of the lower hull though and a coat of matt varnish has also given it a bit more protection.

Chris
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