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Ben blakesley
#1 Posted : 12 September 2011 19:24:16

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hi everyone
i am thinking about doing a ship any advise as what ship to do and tools needed would be great
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#2 Posted : 12 September 2011 19:51:33

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Hi Ben welcome to the Forum, all partwork builds are aimed at people who are new to modelling as well as pros alike The Victory is a great ship and because of the forum and our resident expert MR T you will get lots of help should you choose to build her.
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#3 Posted : 12 September 2011 19:56:17

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thanks MWG ive just had a look at the ships on here and the one that caught my eye the most was the cutty sark. do you think they would be equaly difficult or one considerably harder than the other?
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Ben blakesley wrote:
thanks MWG ive just had a look at the ships on here and the one that caught my eye the most was the cutty sark. do you think they would be equaly difficult or one considerably harder than the other?

the cutty sark i would say slightly easer than the victory as the bow on the sark dose not have a round nose shape as the vic
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#5 Posted : 12 September 2011 20:19:03

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Have a look at the San Francisco II, It isn't a partwork but is an ideal first build. You will find a few build diaries on this forum to help you along. Tools can be bought as you go along, but a basic set will be required before attempting any sort of wooden model. Decide what kit you would like, but keep it simple, no wooden ship kit is CHEAP!
Decide what you want and then ask the question what "do I need now" plenty of advise will be forthcoming.
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#6 Posted : 12 September 2011 20:52:58

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thanks willie and farrabass the san fransisco looks less technical and cheeper. i think that would be the best one for me to start with
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#7 Posted : 12 September 2011 20:56:45

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Hi Ben and welcome to the forum mate...there has already been a few posts about which build is best to begin with, and I agree with all of them, all very sound advice...Personally, I would go with the Cutty Sark, as the hull is less technical to that of the Victory. Everybody picks up the art of modelling at different paces, so you may think Cutty Sark a doddle onece you are well into it?? The Sark was my second build, so, therefore, I found it easier...But, the choice is yours, but what ever you go for, you will find a vast wealth of information, tips and a great bunch of people who would only be too happy to steer you in the right direction should you need help...Happy building mate...
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#8 Posted : 12 September 2011 21:21:26

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thanks jonny. what was your first build?
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#9 Posted : 12 September 2011 21:40:28

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Hi Ben! Cool

Whatever ship you decide to do I would recommend you start a build diary on this forum in the Other Ship Builds section, your shipmates will keep an eye on your work, the input you will get is a great help. Pointing out any problems you might be heading towards and giving advice on how to avoid them.
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#10 Posted : 12 September 2011 22:33:09

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Hi Ben,
Another thing to consider is whether to go for a single or double plank build.
Reading some of the build logs will help you on that one.
You can afford to make a few mistakes planking on a double build, but a single you have to be a bit more careful.

cheers happy building

Peter
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#11 Posted : 13 September 2011 01:25:37

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All valid points, and all worth considering, I offer my opinion as an experienced novice on the subject.
I made a recommendation to start with, the San Francisco II, having had time to analyze that recommendation I would now suggest that the Arab Dow be considered as an entry model.
I have not attempted this build, but when costs are considered and time involved, a kit with a good chance of attaining an acceptable end result is probably paramount!
If you look at the photos presented in "the our ships" section of this site you can see that the model is quite simple, I took a plunge when opting for the San Fransisco II, as I had never before attempted a wooden kit before and would probably never finished it if I had not had some guidance along the way.
The Dow has simple rigging and a relatively simple hull construction, don't be put of by rigging, it is no where like as fierce as it first appears. But be warned this is a severely addictive hobby/addiction and once you start, stopping is no longer an option!
Look at Magpies build diary for the SFII and consider what is involved, if it looks a bit beyond you then consider a simpler model, whatever you eventualy decide on, there are lots of willing exponents of the hobby here to guide you in the right direction, I for one, as are most of the members of the forum willing to answer queries via the PM facility available to this forum.
First rule though is DON'T be mean with tools!
Steve..
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#12 Posted : 13 September 2011 10:14:36

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Ben blakesley wrote:
thanks jonny. what was your first build?

Hi Ben...HMS Bounty was my first build....in at the deep end as far as I was concerned...but another build worth doing?? As one of our shipmates mentioned...modelling is very addictive...just start basic and build from there...Have fun mate...cos that's what its all about...
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Ben blakesley wrote:
thanks jonny. what was your first build?

Hi Ben...HMS Bounty was my first build....in at the deep end as far as I was concerned...but another build worth doing?? As one of our shipmates mentioned...modelling is very addictive...just start basic and build from there...Have fun mate...cos that's what its all about...
BigGrin

you not jocking the bow of the bounty is a different kettle of fish as the saying goes
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#14 Posted : 13 September 2011 20:55:39

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thank you everyone for the excellent advice i will be starting small and working my way up. i have basic tools but nout for modeling any advice as to what i need before i start? thanks all

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Hi Ben,

A Swan morton scalpel (modelling Knife)
Blades round and straight edge
Razor saw
A3 cutting mat (green)
A set of small files
Pin push (puts pins in when planking)
mini pliers
Small sand paper block
Aluminum mitre block
Tweezers
Ladies curling tongs
Aliphatic adhesive
Mini clamps, maybe some long bars

Ok guys your turn nextCool

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Ok i know this thread is a few months old but what exactly do you use the ladies curling tongues for??? Blushing Blushing Are they useful for when it comes to planking?? Confused Confused
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hi wereberg,the curling tongs!!!ahhh would you believe,you can curl your hair whilst planking Blushing seriously though,you can use them for setting bends in wood planks,bit difficult on floor board and 2x 2s.but for planking your boat,they are quite useful,you need to dampen the wood first,I soak mine overnight.
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hi wereberg,the curling tongs!!!ahhh would you believe,you can curl your hair whilst planking seriously though,you can use them for setting bends in wood planks,bit difficult on floor board and 2x 2s.but for planking your boat,they are quite useful,you need to dampen the wood first,I soak mine overnight


@karl1113 - instead of womens curling tongs, is this whats an electric plank bender is for and are these any goodConfused Confused Confused
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#19 Posted : 22 January 2012 09:32:49

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Del_Boy wrote:
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hi wereberg,the curling tongs!!!ahhh would you believe,you can curl your hair whilst planking seriously though,you can use them for setting bends in wood planks,bit difficult on floor board and 2x 2s.but for planking your boat,they are quite useful,you need to dampen the wood first,I soak mine overnight


@karl1113 - instead of womens curling tongs, is this whats an electric plank bender is for and are these any goodConfused Confused Confused


Personally I would not bother with the plank bender. I bought one and it is not very good. i reverted to a soldering iron and that was much better!!
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#20 Posted : 22 January 2012 15:14:42

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@Jade, I'm afraid I've already bought a plank bender tool, I haven't used yet because none of my subs have arrived, so I will just have to wait and see!!!! Crying Laugh Mad
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