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ISSUE 24, 25, and 26 This is the last photo for this tutorial, more to come tomorrow on another subject. I am dissapointed this Partwork does not come with trenails or pins please buy a couple of packets before you start building. ISSUE 24 comes with approx 40 planks but it tells you the issue contains 20 planks the extra are required later in the build, please store them away safely  I hope this has been useful to you, I will have completed the 3 issues by tomorrow,and I have found some strange things with this build which I will highlite to you Questions and comments welcome Regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Great tutorial Mike as you say its easy for us old lags doing this but for the newbies theres lots of pitfalls to avoid regards Andy  Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Hi Mike. Some realy great tips. keep up the good work Ian. Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
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Thanks Andy for your comments Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Hi Ian, thanks for that mate Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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ISSUES 24,25 and 26 TAPER AND BEVEL PLANKS Hi Team I have compiled a series of photos to best explain this process:- This first process is a bevel (sanding the edge of the plank so it butts up to the next plank) First sand at an angle, then run some glue down the edge, then fix with pins up to the next plank (using EVO STIK weatherproof adhesive --- Blue bottle ) Then wipe off excess adhesive Questions and comments welcome MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Looking good mike. I never glued the edges of the planks which I suppose thinking about it I should of but will it make that much of a difference cause if so il glue the inside CURRENT BUILDS
Mclaren MP4-23
Ford 1/12 Shelby Mustang GT500 2010
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I have been using this technique over the last couple of days while planking, im just working through issue 23 a the minute and i will be following your build log for tips. Its a big help seeing how you do it. I will be uploading photos in the coming days so you can see what you think of my progress. Cheers again Mike V86 Cheers
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Bought and on the waiting list: HMS Endeavour's Longboat, 1:90 San Juan Nepomuceno, Titanic Lifeboat,1:200 Bismarck Strip and Rebuild
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Hi Sean, no worries In this case coat the inside with epoxy adhesive. If you are making your build R/C, one of Mr T`s tips I picked up sometime ago is to use Plasterers webbing one side is self adhesive, with the epxy adhesive. In all my builds I bevel the plank and use adhesive between each plank Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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ISSUES 24, 25, and 26 Hi Team I have found a potential problem, at the Stearn rib 39 and 40,I did not have firm rib to fix my planks too here are some photos to highlite the problem and how I overcame it:- I identified the gap, fitted a 75mm length of 5mm x 2mm. Then I shaped the piece and finaly fitted the plank. (both sides have the same problem. Questions and comments welcome Regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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I had the same problem a few weeks back mike. This is what I did  (ignore the glue it will come off) I used one piece and tapered both edges the cut it in half fitting it in the gap at an angle so the rib was flat. Just another idea although ours is properly the better of the two. Sean CURRENT BUILDS
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Hi Sean, I am really pleased you identified the problem your remedy to fix it was first class if it works for you dont knock it well done mate, regards Mike  MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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hy MWG your planking coming on great by the way i check there no dried glue in the corners where the plank tuches the frame if there is i remove it even the smallest amount, to make the next plank even a closer fit
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it seems a bit daft that the kit makers would leave such a big gap, it somtimes makes you wonder if anyone in the company actually makes their own kits. also i sometimes worry that somewhere way, way, down the line that there may be a reason for some of these gaps/other problems, and that in issue 100 for example, there is some instruction mentions why you should not have filled the gap or whatever. i suppose that is always going to be a partwork problem as you are always "flying blind". keep up the good work mike Come on you Jimmies
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Thanks for your nice comments Willie Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Thanks Bob for your positive comments Your points are very valid Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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ISSUES 24 25 and 26 TAPERING THE PLANKS Hi Team as promised a series of photos showing a method of tapering;- In the two examples you can see what I have done to shape the planks to fit the space, you will also see I have also used 5mm x 2mm planks instead of the ones supplied, this has allowed me to get a better curve where required Questions and comments welcome Regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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saintsman123 wrote:it seems a bit daft that the kit makers would leave such a big gap, it somtimes makes you wonder if anyone in the company actually makes their own kits.
also i sometimes worry that somewhere way, way, down the line that there may be a reason for some of these gaps/other problems, and that in issue 100 for example, there is some instruction mentions why you should not have filled the gap or whatever. i suppose that is always going to be a partwork problem as you are always "flying blind".
keep up the good work mike  may be fore draining the back end if you have a leak
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ISSUE 24, 25, and 26 TAPERING THE PLANKS Hi again here are some more photos:- The last photo shows the small gaps that appeared, before fitting the planks I pinned this on just to show you,I then took it off tapered the ends of the plank, bevelled the edge and glued it Questions and comments welcome Regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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