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I recommend the battleship IJN Mikasa. She was completed at the shipyard of Vickers, Sons and Maxim on March 1, 1902. Armed with 4 30.5cm main guns, 14 15.2cm and 16 7.6cm secondary battery guns, 12 4.7cm rapid fire guns and 4 underwater 45.7cm torpedo tubes, and protected with Krupp steel armored plating. Admiral of the Imperial Combined Fleet Heihachiro TOGO made it his flagship, and directed the most important naval campaigns of the Russo-Japanese War from its bridge. The ship is preserved as a museum ship at Yokosuka Port. Mikasa is the last remaining IJN warship. #1 Ticket for a museum ship Mikasa. #2-4 1/350 scale plastic model of the Mikasa sold by Hasegawa CO. in Japan. Yutaro HONMA attached the following image(s): DeAGOSTINI 1/250 the YAMATO, 1/250 the AKAGI.
Hasegawa Co. 1/350 Battle ship NGATO, 1/350 Aircraft carrier Akagi, Battle ship MIKASA.
Water line series 1/700 Battle ship YAMATO, HIEI, YAMASHIRO, Aircraft carrier HIRYU,TAIHO, Heavy Cruiser Myoukou, Ashigara, Nachi, Haguro & others.
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 Yes Yes Yes Please i have been eying this beuty up for a while,the hasegowa kit is good Lion Roar from china have just released a new set of etch for the above kit regards Andy arpurchase attached the following image(s): Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Now thats what I call a model. How much, where can you buy?
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Hi Harty The white ensign website do the hasegawa kit and the etch set but you wont see much change out of £120/130 for both.But its an iconic ship built in the vickers shipyards and was part of the historic japanese victory against the rusian fleet when they sank 19 ships in a day,the japanes navy was one of the first navys to realize that if you had the extra range[calibre of gun 10 inch against 12 inch range factors from plunging shot] then the enemy could be destroyed before they could fire back hence the great victory over the rusian fleet .This lead to japan being introduced to the 'battleship club'of europe but as japan's alowance was 9 battleships compared the usa and the uk's 15 it lead to the withdrawal of japan from the league of nations and the ultimate designe in great secrecy[the yamato class was designed as a pacific domination class of warship that would fight the usa only and didnt have the width restrictions of the panama canal] of the yamato class battleships.Soon after the battle she had an onboard fire when in port and being a pre-dreadnought class ship and basicly overtaken by the battleship armsrace that was prevalent at the time.The battleship is preserved at Yokosuka and is the only pre surviving pre-dreadnought battleship in the world.All in all a ship to be remembered,my preferance would be a wooden hull and some metal/etch enhancments,like the yamato but i think this one will be a scratch build if i can get the plans,perhaps our new friend Yaturo might have some insights on that regards Andy  arpurchase attached the following image(s): Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Better start doing the lottery then but you never know somebody might get the hint for my next birthday, where is she anyhow  . Thanks Andy
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Joined: 21/04/2012 Posts: 747 Points: 2,233 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Hi Andy, Harty and shipmates! I am very glad that you know the history of Japan very well, Andy.  I am also interesting in your attached pictures. Have you ever been to the museum of Mikasa?  May your hope is realized! ,Harty. As Mr.Andy pointed, I used the Lion Roar kit for my Mikasa. Since the kit contains not only photo-etching parts but also brass barrels, I think it is inexpensive. It is the only difficulty that Lion Roar's kit does not contains mantelets in it. I had to make scratch building the mantelets as shown in may attached pictures. Any way Iwill be happy if the Mikasa shall be selected. Best Regards, Yutaro DeAGOSTINI 1/250 the YAMATO, 1/250 the AKAGI.
Hasegawa Co. 1/350 Battle ship NGATO, 1/350 Aircraft carrier Akagi, Battle ship MIKASA.
Water line series 1/700 Battle ship YAMATO, HIEI, YAMASHIRO, Aircraft carrier HIRYU,TAIHO, Heavy Cruiser Myoukou, Ashigara, Nachi, Haguro & others.
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Hi Yaturo-san unfortunatly i have not had the pleasure of visiting your country,the photos i think are off the museum website but not sure but i would like to visit the ship one day she reminds me of HMS Warrior a ship we have here in the UK, both ships were at the cutting edge of technoligy at there launch but soon overtaken by newer inventions/trends in battleship design. As for the history of japan i know a little but im no expert , my main hobbys/intrests are building models and reading history mainly early 20th century but il basicly read anything if its intresting. regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Rank: Vice-Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 21/04/2012 Posts: 747 Points: 2,233 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Hi Andy. Thank you for your reply. Japan is a island country as UK and we learned how to build the warships and the system of the Navy from UK in the ealry 20th century. I hope you will be able to visit Japan someday. By the way do you know the reason why the name of the Akagi is "Akagi"? It is a strange name for the IJN aircraft carrier. This concerned with the history of the Akagi. Best Regards, Yutaro DeAGOSTINI 1/250 the YAMATO, 1/250 the AKAGI.
Hasegawa Co. 1/350 Battle ship NGATO, 1/350 Aircraft carrier Akagi, Battle ship MIKASA.
Water line series 1/700 Battle ship YAMATO, HIEI, YAMASHIRO, Aircraft carrier HIRYU,TAIHO, Heavy Cruiser Myoukou, Ashigara, Nachi, Haguro & others.
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Hi Yaturo the Akagi name as you say is unusual for a japanese aircraft carrier but if you know the history of the ship then it explaines itself.The Akagi was first laid down as an Amagi class battlecruiser but due to the naval treaty of 1922 she was converted into an aircraft carrier with 3 decks.IJN traditions say that battlecruisers are traditionaly named after mountians,and mount Akagi or red castle is a dormant volcano in the Kanto region of japan.IJN tradition ussaly dictated that all aircraft carriers were named after flying creatures for instance 'Soryu' but the akagi kept her mountain name regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Rank: Vice-Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 21/04/2012 Posts: 747 Points: 2,233 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Hi Andy Your answer is perfect!  I am very glad to know a well informed person like you. I think you well know that some IJN aircraft carriers were other kinds of warships when they were built first. The Shinano and the Kaga used to be battleships and they were named after the ancient names of the prefectural countries in Japan. Kaga is Ishikawa prefecture and Shinano is Niigata prefecture at present. You have made reference about origin of the aircraft carrier's name. You also have exact knowledge about it. 'Soryu' means ａblue dragon. 'ryu' is written as "龍". Hiryu(飛龍) has the same Chinese letter. 'you' means a hawks and is written as "鷹". ''hou" is written as "鳳". It is a imagined thank bird of Chinese legend and is said that it appears in public when a saint is born. By the way, this is real mystery for me about the names of IJN warships. There are no warships that were named after human. Considering Togo's distinguished services in Sea of Japan Naval Battle in 1905, I think that it is very strange matter if it were in western country. Best Regards, Yutaro Yutaro HONMA attached the following image(s): DeAGOSTINI 1/250 the YAMATO, 1/250 the AKAGI.
Hasegawa Co. 1/350 Battle ship NGATO, 1/350 Aircraft carrier Akagi, Battle ship MIKASA.
Water line series 1/700 Battle ship YAMATO, HIEI, YAMASHIRO, Aircraft carrier HIRYU,TAIHO, Heavy Cruiser Myoukou, Ashigara, Nachi, Haguro & others.
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Hi Yaturo Thank you for the kind words,i believe it is diffrent traditions in each of our countrys that dictates ship names in the uk /europe names of people are used quite commonly like HMS Hood named after an admiral and also a great many of the RN ship names can be traced back to the Spanish Armada like Warspite and Revenge but we too name our ships after area's/places like HMS Coventry or Sheffield. The naming of ships in japan or places around that area has always been by tradition to use mythical beasts like dragons or places that have some significance in history ,these places or dietys are usally picked as a sign of good luck to the ship and all who sail in her. Please correct me if im wrong regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Rank: Vice-Master Groups: Registered
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Hi Andy! Thank you for a fruitful discussion about the names of warships. About the nomenclature of the IJN warship, I think if a Japanese religion had a cause. It is not Buddhism but Shintoism. Shinto(神道) means “gods’ (small “g” is not a mistype) method how to be born, live and die”. This “god” is not the same as “The GOD (The Creator)” but near a fairy. The persons who made first dictionary miss translated “Kami (神)” as God. Therefore we think there are many gods in anywhere and anything. I think it likes Greek mythology. Almost people including even Japanese believe that main religion of Japan is Buddhism. However Buddhism was told to Japan in the 6th century, Japanese race is thought to have lived in Japan for more than 200 thousand years. We have had another primitive religion in the bottom and they say it is Shintoism. In the instruction of Shintoism, gods in the home country, town ,village or any related matters protect the people there. I have hypothesis that the warships that had names of the prefectures, mountains, livers or weather phenomenons were considered to be incarnations of guardians deity of Japan. I guess you may know SUMO wrestling, a Japanese traditional one. Its origin was told to be an event of Shinto. Each Sumo wrestler has each ring name and in a lot of cases they were named after their home town related matters. They may become guardians deity from their home town just on the DOHYO ring. Even foreign Sumo wrestlers often have the same name of their countries. Don’t you think it likes the IJN battleships’ nomenclature. Describing above, I remember a Shintoism rule about human’s names especially names of dead people. It is mysterious and somewhat fearful. If you are interested in it, I will write it here someday, otherwise it hardly related to the topics in MODELSPACE. Best Regards, Yutaro DeAGOSTINI 1/250 the YAMATO, 1/250 the AKAGI.
Hasegawa Co. 1/350 Battle ship NGATO, 1/350 Aircraft carrier Akagi, Battle ship MIKASA.
Water line series 1/700 Battle ship YAMATO, HIEI, YAMASHIRO, Aircraft carrier HIRYU,TAIHO, Heavy Cruiser Myoukou, Ashigara, Nachi, Haguro & others.
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Thanks for the reply Yaturo and yes the religions of Japan have a great inflence on the naming of ships as you say and the greak mytholigy comparison is a good fit.I have also heard of the early setlers of japan[think they were called the goman but not sure] who had great reverances for stone circles [usaly circles of polished round stones not the stone henge type] and also some caves and larger rocks. regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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