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#21 Posted : 14 June 2012 01:55:17

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Nose cone looks fantastic mate. U could prob get away with putting the the top part on now as I'm assuming the only reason it was left off was for the decals. Great work
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#22 Posted : 14 June 2012 10:56:54

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Hi Chris the decal work looks awesomeBigGrin Good stuffThumpUp Regards Mike
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#23 Posted : 14 June 2012 12:04:03

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Thanks guys. It looks even better this morning now the creases have been sucked back..BigGrin
So nothing to worry about everyone...BigGrin BigGrin

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#24 Posted : 16 June 2012 21:47:48

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So....the Micro set and Micro Sol are a must and a nice soft brush.
I better order some today!!!BigGrin

Great Job on your Decals on your front wing!
Very expertly applied!

Regards ChrisBigGrin
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#25 Posted : 16 June 2012 22:42:50

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Did you buy them decals for the nose cone, we will get them in the build later on right?
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#26 Posted : 16 June 2012 22:52:28

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Did you buy them decals for the nose cone, we will get them in the build later on right?


Yes you do mate.... last issue I believe
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#27 Posted : 24 July 2012 17:14:01

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Hey guys, sorry to revive an old thread - just wanted to get some further advice with these carbon decals supplied by Deag.Confused

I have bought the micro set & sol & once the decals have been applied & dried using these - do they require any further attention with Klear or some other top-coat to finish & protect them?

If it is Klear, what is the best way to apply this - i have bought some, but never used it?

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#28 Posted : 24 July 2012 18:40:00

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kryten2b wrote:
Hey guys, sorry to revive an old thread - just wanted to get some further advice with these carbon decals supplied by Deag.Confused

I have bought the micro set & sol & once the decals have been applied & dried using these - do they require any further attention with Klear or some other top-coat to finish & protect them?

If it is Klear, what is the best way to apply this - i have bought some, but never used it?

Thanks

For small parts like that you can just apply with a soft brush and leave to dry.. add another coat and repeat. Finally Gently buff with a new dust cloth (yellow ones that you might see your other half going around with at times.. apparently they apply polish from a can and do the tops of tv's and tables etc.. difficult to get any proof of them doing it though!!) BigGrin
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Thanks Warthog - but just to clarify, do you mean apply Klear with a soft brush or the Micro Sol/Set?

Sorry, made loads of models as a kid - but never used any of these products Blushing
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#30 Posted : 24 July 2012 21:12:52

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kryten2b wrote:
Thanks Warthog - but just to clarify, do you mean apply Klear with a soft brush or the Micro Sol/Set?

Sorry, made loads of models as a kid - but never used any of these products Blushing



Use micro sol and set to get the decal to form over the parts then once completely dry a coat of Klear to give it a shine as described above...
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BigGrin Great advice Warty.....I have my Micro sol and Micro set....just need to get some Klear BigGrin
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#32 Posted : 25 July 2012 10:12:12

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Thanks Warthog, that's exactly what i needed BigGrin

By the way, one final question - in recent issues, Tomick has suggested the use of an Epoxy glue instead of the usual SG or ABS glue. Any recommendations on the best epoxy for the job - not a glue i have used before?

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BigGrin Hi Kryten
epoxys now thats a can of wormsLOL ,the 5 minute epoxys tend to go off fast so can be wastefull and make things messy as you tend to rush things when using it.I tend to use the 30 minute type as it gives you some working time but be carefull of any overspills and you will need to clamp the parts together untill its set.Use coctail sticks to apply on small areas and the tounge depresor type lolly sticks for larger areas and i mix mine on a small piece of glass.As for brand names through experience iv found that epoxy is epoxy watever tube it comes in so a cheap one from Wilko will work just as well as an evostick brand but the difrence is in the price,hope this helps
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Hi guys, i've built lots of little models that come with small decals & they are really easy to put on.I think where most of us are getting abit nervous is putting on the larger decals.Once they start to set they are really hard to move around without damaging them.I've just bought Revell Decal Softner but since i've never used it before i'm abit unsure.Read the instructions but they are abit vague.Do you paint it on the model part first & then put the decal on or wait till the decal is on & then brush it? Thanks for your patience.
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Does anyone know why epoxy has been suggested for these parts. Are they made of a different material?
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noki49 wrote:
Does anyone know why epoxy has been suggested for these parts. Are they made of a different material?



I think its because Tomick prefers using the Epoxy because it won't run out plus if used with a tooth pick its easier to apply with accuracy.. one small dot he suggests..
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noki49 wrote:
Does anyone know why epoxy has been suggested for these parts. Are they made of a different material?


You'll notice that I say in my diary notes that the magazine suggesst a General Purpose glue rather than use ABS glue for particular assemblies, which is for two reasons.

There is high risk that the use of ABS glue in these areas may result in seepage onto the silver paint, or that you inadvertantly do so, thus destroying any paint that it comes into contact with.

I opted for epoxy for two reasons....as Warthog says, it can be applied with accuracy via a cocktail in small dots, and that it won't attack the silver paint.

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#38 Posted : 26 July 2012 12:42:48

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Would epoxy be good to use for gluing the wing stays from issue 7 to the nose as I can't get a good join when I use the pipe weld. It seems too thick and and spoils the join. I have had a couple of goes and can't get a result i'm happy with. I either seem to have too much glue and it shows at the join, or not enough and the bond is too weak.
I have bought some of the runny abs glue but not tried it yet. Not sure about the capilliary action not spoiling the paint finish.
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Tomick wrote:
noki49 wrote:
Does anyone know why epoxy has been suggested for these parts. Are they made of a different material?


You'll notice that I say in my diary notes that the magazine suggesst a General Purpose glue rather than use ABS glue for particular assemblies, which is for two reasons.

There is high risk that the use of ABS glue in these areas may result in seepage onto the silver paint, or that you inadvertantly do so, thus destroying any paint that it comes into contact with.

I opted for epoxy for two reasons....as Warthog says, it can be applied with accuracy via a cocktail in small dots, and that it won't attack the silver paint.



Hi,
Sorry to bug, but was there a particular reason we were advised to use pipeweld and not Epoxy?
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#40 Posted : 26 July 2012 13:29:38

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In what sense, the mag/Kyosho info says to use an ABS adhesive in the main which pipe weld is one that many have used to success, others prefer a liquid solvent type.

Basically its best to use a glue that is suited/recommended to a specific purpose, though no reason why you can't use what ever you prefer if it works good enough and you are happy with its application and end result.
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