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Joined: 24/04/2010 Posts: 5,787 Points: 17,662 Location: Stafford, United Kingdom
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To my fellow ship builders, particularly to people new to modelling. I have seen posts from shipmates asking about `Jigs` (NOT A DANCE)  and how to purchase or make one. What I am going to show and explain to you is not my invention, lots of people in this forum over the last 15 months have shown photos and details of what I am going to show you, but theirs have got lost now in the archives of many threads, I am just going to, "dig them up" so to speak,so here goes. Over 50 years ago when I built my first ship my father showed me how to lay the Keel, and I am sure many modellers today had the same information passed to them either from their father or a friend, so what I am going to show you is not new,but cheap and effective, I call it my DRY DOCK. 1)Buy or beg a length of timber, seasoned and not twisted,approx 8 inches wide by the length of your Ship. 2)Purchace 10 to 14 angle brackets approx 50 mm and some screws. Now draw a line down the centre of the plank, take the thickness of your ships Keel and position the angle brackets in pairs either side off the line. ( you will see this in the photos ) "why would I use a Dry dock", It allows you to lay the Keel of you ship so it will not twist or distort while you are building. The photos attached should tell the story but if you need more info anyone one the forum including myself will help you. The photo with out a ship is the dry dock I used for the Victory and the Endeavour. The last Photo is the Cutty Sark, which has had its Keel laid for 8 months, and is still straight and true.( I will carry on the build soon) thank you for looking MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Joined: 25/04/2011 Posts: 165 Points: 471 Location: Glossop
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Thanks for this item. I was going to ask about this but you have given me all the info I need. First Build HMS Victory and HMS Endeavour Also Krick steam boat "Victoria" Cheers Ivan (Ordinary Seaman) http://www.old-glossop.com
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Your welcome, thank you  MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Some members have PM`d me to ask if the Dry Dock can be used for other builds, yes it can, you still have the centre line, all you need to do is adjust the brackets to suite the new Keel. MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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This last detail shows the Victory being built on her dry dock. MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Joined: 22/03/2010 Posts: 2,065 Points: 6,295 Location: Gorleston-on-sea
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Looking good mate...  Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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Thank you Johnny MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Thanks, it made building my "Dry Dock" today so simple.
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Rank: Super-Elite Groups: Registered
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Grab, I am pleased the information helped you. MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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The Build stand which comes as a "freeby" with the Endeavour Partwork is not very good, I am working on a simple modification for us all to use (That is all the Endeavour Builders.)  MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Joined: 13/01/2012 Posts: 62 Points: 136 Location: Stockport
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Excellent post MWG, just the info i need, ive got the brackets and will be visiting B & Q soon Current Builds
HMS VICTORY
The Akagi
Battleship Yamato
To Give up is to fail, to keep trying is to suceed!!!!!
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Brackets are cheaper at Wilkinson's if there is one near you. I also found I had to chuck my B&Q brackets as they were not 90 degrees angles. worth checking. “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Super-Elite Groups: Registered
Joined: 24/04/2010 Posts: 5,787 Points: 17,662 Location: Stafford, United Kingdom
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I am really pleased it helped you Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Rank: Semi-Pro Level 1 Groups: Registered
Joined: 13/01/2012 Posts: 62 Points: 136 Location: Stockport
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@Jase I've purchased my brackets already on eBay, so I will have to wait and see, and @Mike impressive list of builds, as a complete newcomer I have a lot to learn  Current Builds
HMS VICTORY
The Akagi
Battleship Yamato
To Give up is to fail, to keep trying is to suceed!!!!!
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Rank: Super-Elite Groups: Registered
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Del boy we all learn from each other Happy building. Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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MWG wrote:To my fellow ship builders, particularly to people new to modelling. I have seen posts from shipmates asking about `Jigs` (NOT A DANCE) and how to purchase or make one. What I am going to show and explain to you is not my invention, lots of people in this forum over the last 15 months have shown photos and details of what I am going to show you, but theirs have got lost now in the archives of many threads, I am just going to, "dig them up" so to speak,so here goes. Over 50 years ago when I built my first ship my father showed me how to lay the Keel, and I am sure many modellers today had the same information passed to them either from their father or a friend, so what I am going to show you is not new,but cheap and effective, I call it my DRY DOCK. 1)Buy or beg a length of timber, seasoned and not twisted,approx 8 inches wide by the length of your Ship. 2)Purchace 10 to 14 angle brackets approx 50 mm and some screws. Now draw a line down the centre of the plank, take the thickness of your ships Keel and position the angle brackets in pairs either side off the line. ( you will see this in the photos ) "why would I use a Dry dock", It allows you to lay the Keel of you ship so it will not twist or distort while you are building. The photos attached should tell the story but if you need more info anyone one the forum including myself will help you. The photo with out a ship is the dry dock I used for the Victory and the Endeavour. The last Photo is the Cutty Sark, which has had its Keel laid for 8 months, and is still straight and true.( I will carry on the build soon) thank you for looking Hi Team I thought it would be useful for new members to have information on building a DRY DOCK, which I posted some time ago (15th JUNE 2011) Kind regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Once you have added the hull planking this type of Jig becomes redundant and you are left with that provided with the kit. I found that for some of the tasks this was not suitable so i devised a jig which presented the hull to me at a 45 degree angle. I have posted this before and received some posiive feedback so here it is again as some time has passed and no doubt the thread is now lost. No copyright involved so feel free to build your own GilShapley attached the following image(s): Current Build:-
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