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Gandale wrote:Hi Mike, excellent posts as usual, it's all appreciated. I too would like to pack out the hull with balsa as I think this will aid in the shaping process prior to tackling the planking as well as giving the hull extra strength. Can I ask however, will you be giving us Newbies an idea as to the amount and size of balsa wood we will need to order to do the job and do you know of a place online where it can be ordered....
Now about to tackle issue 3... thanks again... Hi GD, thank you for your comments, I will be covering the fitting of Balsa infills when the ribs have been fitted, and giving sizes etc. You are right the Balsa aides the fitting of the planks  Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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BALSA INFILLS (BOW PART No 2) Hi Team, its time for me to start using balsa wood, to strengthen the Bow formers. Its something I prefer to do (you do not need to)with all my ship builds. STEP 1 cut the first pieces of Balsa (these are 10mm thick):- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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BALSA INFILLS STEP 2 I now measure and cut two more infills (these are 6 mm thick) I used two pieces of 3 mm thick from some offcuts I had:- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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BALSA INFILLS STEP 3 Please make sure if you decide to do this, you do not fill the centre slot because judgeing by the hole at the middle of part 2 the bow sprit will be fitted here, plus there is a slot at the bottem where we are going to fit another part. I will add two more infills of 10 mm thick when I have fitted bow formers 12 in another issue. Well thats all for now,  Questions and comments welcome, I will leave you with a photo of the balsa roughly shaped at this point.:- Regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Good job mike...still have not picked up my balsa packs as yet!! Better get my backside into gear!! Are you just packing the bow and stern sect ions with balsa or are you doing the whole lower hull Mike?   Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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Hi Jonny, cheers for that, I am going to do the whole lower hull, you know me where ever I can put balsa to make planking easier and more stable Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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That looks very good Mike And I think that I will use the Balsa for my next Ship too It looks much easier to plank, and to get a better rounding
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Hi Mike, Great post,I would fill in the hull every time on my models,a very good and worth while tip for members new to this forum,this also helps at the planking stage. Kind Regards Trev. Work in progress: Tombstone (Scratch) - San Francisco 2. -The Mayflower ( scratch by plan).
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Thanks Mike, exactly what I wanted to see... Went out and got balsa today and have packed between the bow formers... quite please with the results so far... Have also decided to attempt my first diary, managed to upload two photo's, quality not great but that will improve.. Just trying to work out how to display the images as a post rather than a download..... Great work as usual Mike....
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MWG wrote:Hi Jonny, cheers for that, I am going to do the whole lower hull, you know me where ever I can put balsa to make planking easier and more stable Regards Mike Hi Mike...I think that packing balsa along the entire length is the way to go on this build, always packed bow and stern but the whole length is going to be a first for me this time around!! Keep up the good work mate!! Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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Hi Mike, I've never used Balsa before, but it seems like a good way to go. Not sure my pocket is deep enough (@ the prices in my local shop) or my sanding arm tough enough, to Balsa the whole Hull though. Excellent posts, as usual, thanks for all the food for thought.
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Gandale wrote:Thanks Mike, exactly what I wanted to see... Went out and got balsa today and have packed between the bow formers... quite please with the results so far... Have also decided to attempt my first diary, managed to upload two photo's, quality not great but that will improve.. Just trying to work out how to display the images as a post rather than a download..... Great work as usual Mike.... Make your pics 600x450 ish,they will then show up Rob Nolli Illigitimi Carborundum!!!Current Builds: HMS Victory, SV Thermopylae
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Jesus-Belzheim wrote:That looks very good Mike And I think that I will use the Balsa for my next Ship too It looks much easier to plank, and to get a better rounding Hi Peter thank you it is easier to plank Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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tf64 wrote:Hi Mike,
Great post,I would fill in the hull every time on my models,a very good and worth while tip for members new to this forum,this also helps at the planking stage.
Kind Regards Trev. Hi Trev thanks for the positive comments Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Gandale wrote:Thanks Mike, exactly what I wanted to see... Went out and got balsa today and have packed between the bow formers... quite please with the results so far... Have also decided to attempt my first diary, managed to upload two photo's, quality not great but that will improve.. Just trying to work out how to display the images as a post rather than a download..... Great work as usual Mike.... Hi GD you are doing great Thanks for the nice comments, Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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jonny7england wrote:MWG wrote:Hi Jonny, cheers for that, I am going to do the whole lower hull, you know me where ever I can put balsa to make planking easier and more stable Regards Mike Hi Mike...I think that packing balsa along the entire length is the way to go on this build, always packed bow and stern but the whole length is going to be a first for me this time around!! Keep up the good work mate!! Cheers Jonny I use special files to shape the Balsa, not as hard as you think Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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court orchard wrote:Hi Mike,
I've never used Balsa before, but it seems like a good way to go. Not sure my pocket is deep enough (@ the prices in my local shop) or my sanding arm tough enough, to Balsa the whole Hull though. Excellent posts, as usual, thanks for all the food for thought. Hi Andy, the balsa costs approx £5 1/2 inch x 3 feet you need x 2 Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Hi Mike, That doesn't sound bad at all for price and quantity, what width is that? The local Shop wanted £5 for a piece 10mm x 500mm x 100mm, and I thought I am going to need a lot of those. I shall look further afield. Thanks for the info.
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Hi Andy you my need max 3 we only use the box method when fitting the Balsa Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Hi Mike, That makes sense, thanks for the reply.
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