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Sillvestra
#1 Posted : 05 October 2012 14:40:15

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OK. My turn to start a topic to have a moan/question LOL

Out of the 5 issues received so far, I seem to have 4 wooden parts which are flat/straight and all the remainder have varying degrees of warp/twist when checked on a flat and level surface...

As an example photo posted by another builder here, if you look at the 2nd photo on post #1 of Rob T's Sovereign builb (http://forum.model-space.co.uk/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4951), part #8 can be seen to be curving away from the centre keel spacer... My part #8 hard an even greater curve.

As a car mechanic of many years, I know and understand the value of parts that fit right 1st time. As a result, I can't decide if I'm just being too finicky or just unlucky...

Currently, my wet tile press is working wonders on batch #2 of parts for straightening and my dry tile press is keeping batch #1 flat post straightening and gluing.

There isn't any problem with my build being held up slightly with this added work, (my name isn't Roy Flapper) just wondering if this is normal...

Moan over - off to check how batch #2 is doing in the hopes I can glue them tonight and start batch #3 off in the wet tile press BigGrin
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#2 Posted : 05 October 2012 15:43:46

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hi again andy,we have all experienced this warping,on receipt of said parts i.e. ribs and keel and decks which we are still to get.they are warp free,as soon as they enter our various abodes they spring up and stick there tongue out at us,moral of the story is humidity,as some of the more experienced builders usually do,is lay them flat with weight,UNTIL needed.if you store plank lengths the same happens,as tomick has said it will be issue ten before you need to use the ribs or keel,unfortunally the mag does not work that way,new builders are generally impatient to start straight away.so make sure your keel is well clamped up.and the ribs stored under weight.hope this explanation is adequate.good luck,and don't forget it is my opinion on warping.
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court orchard
#3 Posted : 05 October 2012 16:04:39

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As Karl says, our houses (or sheds) are all different and the different Relative Humidities and Ambient Temperatures will cause the wood to absorb or loose moisture. Plywood is notorious for this as it is two or more different pieces of wood bonded together. The secret is to store them flat until needed, as suggested, once we start to build the Hull everything will be 'tied' together. Modern houses with central heating tend to have very low humidity levels. Of course we don't know where these part were produced and packaged, it may have been somewhere hot and dry or humid etc.
The joy of wooden models is that wood is very forgiving.
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#4 Posted : 05 October 2012 16:17:59

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Cheers Karl and Andy, I was thinking it would be something along those lines and that I wouldn't be the first or last to suffer...

I'm just in the process of getting all the pieces flat and the ribs built ready for the keel build run in a few weeks time. Thankfully didn't suffer from the issue #4 rogue rib problem BigGrin

Quick question Andy, where did you get that lovely 25kg weight you use with your tiles? Would be an ideal addition to my dry tile press...
Andy

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jonny7england
#5 Posted : 05 October 2012 18:37:31

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I can only echo what has been said already...As I have had distortion in my rib parts too, but as been mentioned, I have glued the rib parts together and placed them on a flat surface with a weight on them...Checking them occasionally, the warpage seems to be disappearing. In my experience, when putting the build together, any minor warpage left will be worked out as the build progresses.
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court orchard
#6 Posted : 05 October 2012 19:38:00

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Hi,
The weight is from a sack weighing machine I bought at a Farm sale and was used for filling sacks to the 56lb standard (potatoes or whatever). Unfortunately the price for these things as gone through the roof, I think I paid £1. But then such things were considered only good for scrap. Could probably get £20 for the weight on it's own and it came with 2.
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#7 Posted : 05 October 2012 20:10:11

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court orchard wrote:
Hi,
The weight is from a sack weighing machine I bought at a Farm sale and was used for filling sacks to the 56lb standard (potatoes or whatever). Unfortunately the price for these things as gone through the roof, I think I paid £1. But then such things were considered only good for scrap. Could probably get £20 for the weight on it's own and it came with 2.


I remember those particular weights well from my childhood and with my father visiting the local coal merchant where the coal was weighed on what to me seemed like gigantic iron scales, wheeling the coal home through the streets on an old pram...Oh, those were the days... I reckon that they must be collector pieces these days???
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