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ISSUE 7 BUILD Well Team thats all for now Questions and comments welcome. We will start Stage 3 tomorrow. I will leave you with a few photos of how the ship looks at this stage Thank you for looking in. Kind regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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SOTS SHIPS BOATS Hi Team I realised that some where in the build we would be building the ships boats, so I decided to source in the correct scale of 1/84 a boat to enhance the sots to my satisfaction. On my enhancment the ribs particularly will be in scale plus all the oars, anchor, boat hooks will be in brass etch, plus walnut for the tiller, thwarts ect. When I built my Victory launch I was never happy with the ribs inperticular being out of scale (many members at the time fitted new ribs from computor card) Here are photos of my finished Victory ;- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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SOTS SHIPS BOATS Now here is the Hull of my new sots Ships boat, along side the completed version of my victory launch, showing the comparison :- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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SOTS SHIPS BOATs As you can sea in the photo my new Hull is the same size as the Victory launch. Here is my new Launch for the SOTS:- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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SOTS SHIPS BOATS I plan to start building it when we reach that stage. If anyone would like info on this enhancement please PM me, I am sure other members would like to go this route.AND NO PLANKING!!!!!! Questions and comments welcome Regards Mike MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Hi Mike The beginning looks very good, and straight Keep up the good work
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Jesus-Belzheim wrote:Hi Mike The beginning looks very good, and straight Keep up the good work Thank you Peter I have posted so much from page 12 post 235 I thought you might miss it all Kind regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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No I didn`t Mike I just hat lateschift, and then I come home late at night And I`m to tired to look into the Forum So I read it at the Weekend
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No problem Peter have a good sleep Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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STAGE 3 BALSA INFILLS Ok Team I promised you a tutorial to day on fitting Balsa to your SOTS (or any ship) POINT 1 The object is to make the ship stronger ( remember Balsa is a hard wood and when fixed in situ is very strong). POINT 2 No matter how hard you try to fix the ribs at 90 degrees, with temperature changes you will experience some movement in these parts with Balsa I will show you how I lock them in to the position they should be in so they do not move POINT 3 By fitting Balsa infills "Fairing" and planking are so much easier. So lets begin, we need a razor saw, pencil,craft knife, steel ruler cutting mat, your DRY DOCK (jig) large strong clamps and PVA adhesive, thats all at this stage In this section I am going to deal with the first 3 ribs:- The Bow rib 2 (forward bulkhead) The second (5)and third (6)ribs in order. Take any thickness of balsa to do the job I used some left over bits, and then I used 1/4inch Balsa which I just happen to have (later on I will use 1/2 inch Balsa) These first spaces between the ribs we will totally fill with Balsa, the other areas we will use a box method.(more about that at a later stage) What follows next are lots of photos to show what I have done, but before I go to them,we need some measurements to work with, on my build the measurement of the space between Rib 2 and Rib 5 is 1 inch, and the space between Rib 5 and Rib 6 is 1 1/4 inch yours may be different, but whatever it is that is the measurement you must use right across each space. So here goes have a look and come back with your Questions :- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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STAGE 3 BALSA INFILLS Now we have 2 laminated (5 ply) infills, all we have to do is fit them Here goes, do not force them in they should be a snug fit and not loose:- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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STAGE 3 BALSA INFILLS Now we have finished cutting and filling both spaces, you can see we clamp them with my trusty long bars to allow the adhesive to cure (please note the infills must not be higher than the deck position. We will now do some trimming:- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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STAGE 3 BALSA INFILLS we now prepare the second set of infills just like the first set, they are laminated 1/4 inch wide pieces,clamp them as usual here we are:- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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STAGE 3 BALSA INFILLS and so after everything is cured we remove the clamps and trim the infills:- MWG attached the following image(s): MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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STAGE 3 BALSA INFILLS Well thats it for this session (although I have finished the whole ship) but thats for the next time. You will see that the ribs are locked in place now and will not twist, maybe the tops of the ribs will move but we can straighten them as we fit the decks. We will fair the whole ship in one go, its easier and better this way. Questions and comments are welcome please note I have posted alot of information from page 12 post 235 Kind regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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what does fairing mean? sanding back to the correct shape?
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Yes thats right, I will be covering that later in the tutorial. If you look at the shape of the forward bulkhead (rib 2)with the Balsa infills, that has been "Faired" thanks for the good question Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Hi Mike Thanks for the good tutorial, I`ll be waiting for the next session
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Hi Mike. Great tutorial . Will help loads of people. Thanks Mike. Best regards. Mark
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phew just bean through the whole of MWGs diary! quite a marathon but well worth it such good information Im so glad I didnt glue the ribs to the keel that would have set me back a bit, the balsa wood system sounds a great idea. keep it coming jeff
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