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#1 Posted : 28 October 2012 21:09:38

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Not sure if this is true or not but it made me laugh and who knows they say Truth is Stranger Than Fiction
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#2 Posted : 28 October 2012 23:25:54

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Hi Gil,
Thanks great entertainment.
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#3 Posted : 29 October 2012 00:22:38

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Nice article, thanks.

I wonder if many people know how many words and expressions have naval origins.
To name a few, Junk, Slush fund, Pooped, Above board, Bitter end, Chock a block, Foot loose, Cut and Run, Pipe down, Leeway, etc, etc,
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Hello Gil, I like that thanks for sharing. Be interesting to know if it is true BigGrin

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#5 Posted : 29 October 2012 07:10:37

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LOL LOL LOLBigGrin.
Nice find Gil.
It would be interesting to find out.
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Ooh i know one of these,again not sure if its true but i was told shipmates dishes had a rim around the edges known as the fiddle,if a crew member was seen to have food over this rim he had more than his fair share and was "On the fiddle"
Tell me the truth,I shall not offend nor be offended

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this is a copy from wikipedia, but as we all know it's not always right.



It is often stated that the phrase originated from the use of a brass tray, called a "monkey", to hold cannonballs on warships in the 16th to 18th centuries. Supposedly, in very cold temperatures the "monkey" would contract, causing the balls to fall off.[14] However, nearly all historians and etymologists consider this story to be an urban legend. This story has been discredited by the U.S. Department of the Navy,[15] etymologist Michael Quinion, and the Oxford English Dictionary (OED).[16]

They give five main reasons:

The OED does not record the term "monkey" or "brass monkey" being used in this way.
The purported method of storage of cannonballs ("round shot") is simply false. Shot was not stored on deck continuously on the off-chance that the ship might go into battle. Indeed, decks were kept as clear as possible.
Furthermore, such a method of storage would result in shot rolling around on deck and causing a hazard in high seas. Shot was stored on the gun or spar decks, in shot racks—longitudinal wooden planks with holes bored into them, known as shot garlands in the Royal Navy, into which round shot were inserted for ready use by the gun crew.
Shot was not left exposed to the elements where it could rust. Such rust could lead to the ball not flying true or jamming in the barrel and exploding the gun. Indeed, gunners would attempt to remove as many imperfections as possible from the surfaces of balls.
The physics does not stand up to scrutiny. The contraction of both balls and plate over the range of temperatures involved would not be particularly large. The effect claimed possibly could be reproduced under laboratory conditions with objects engineered to a high precision for this purpose, but it is unlikely it would ever have occurred in real life aboard a warship.


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Hi Bob, a good postBigGrin Thank you, kind regards Mike
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Well their you go don't believe every thing you read.

Thanks for that Bob BigGrin

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Interesting posts,

but why let the truth get in the way of a good storyBigGrin
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Love it always wanted to know where that saying came from lol
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Love it Thanks Gill
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