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Can anyone help. I've made a mess of the planking on the launch. I've ordered another issue for another go. Any advice on best glue to use, or how to hold in position while glue sets would be very greatly appreciated Cheers Stu Cheers Stu
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Superglue Model boats built so far:-
Billings Cutty Sark
Scratch built twin IC RC Vosper MTB.
Scratch built rc electric hybrid.
Scratch built rc IC hydrofoil (ran happily on snow as well as water!)
Plus numerous numerous RC planes.
Under construction
Sovereign of the Seas!
1200:1 HMS Victory (by Mantua)
The Battleship Yamato (seriously considering building as an RC model)
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Agree, I´ve made all plankings at the launch of my Victory with superglue. Regards, Bernd
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Using superglue means you dont need to use clamps. Just hold the plank in place for a few seconds until the glue goes off and there you have it. Just dont attach your fingers as well  Model boats built so far:-
Billings Cutty Sark
Scratch built twin IC RC Vosper MTB.
Scratch built rc electric hybrid.
Scratch built rc IC hydrofoil (ran happily on snow as well as water!)
Plus numerous numerous RC planes.
Under construction
Sovereign of the Seas!
1200:1 HMS Victory (by Mantua)
The Battleship Yamato (seriously considering building as an RC model)
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denissimo wrote: Just dont attach your fingers as well That´s the reason, why we have ten of them  Regards, Bernd
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thanks for replies, sounds like a plan. superglue it is. Cheers Stu
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der Gohfelder wrote:denissimo wrote: Just dont attach your fingers as well That´s the reason, why we have ten of them Regards, Bernd I never realised that was the reason Bernd  You learn something new from this group every day Cheers Den Model boats built so far:-
Billings Cutty Sark
Scratch built twin IC RC Vosper MTB.
Scratch built rc electric hybrid.
Scratch built rc IC hydrofoil (ran happily on snow as well as water!)
Plus numerous numerous RC planes.
Under construction
Sovereign of the Seas!
1200:1 HMS Victory (by Mantua)
The Battleship Yamato (seriously considering building as an RC model)
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Which is the best type of superglue? I'm having some difficulty in getting the planks to stay in place at the bow end as there is hardly anything for the plank to attach to.
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I used this one: http://www.diy.com/nav/d...10548887?skuId=11039419
The gel is better as it doesn't run off, just sits there as a mini blob. I know what you mean though about nothing to hang on to. Planking that launch would test the patience of a saint.
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Yep, it is a pain in the butt, I've decided to add a little bit of wood either side of the bow frame in order for the planks to have something more to hold onto, it shouldn't be noticable as it will be hidden by the other bits we'll be adding later.
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Make sure the planks are flexible, using hot water. also i found some super glues are very liquidy, a slightly thick super glue should do the trick with a small dab of it, good luck! Processing - Progressing
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Current build: HMS Sovereign of the seas
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Try putting the gel on with a cocktail stick.That way you can put it where you need it and it's not so messy.A slightly long fingernail will hold the planks in place and is easier to get off if it sticks 
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andyp wrote:Try putting the gel on with a cocktail stick.That way you can put it where you need it and it's not so messy.A slightly long fingernail will hold the planks in place and is easier to get off if it sticks That's a good tip, I also use a cocktail stick or a metal probe and then count to 30 slowly before I let go. CA or Super glue uses the slight moisture in the wood to set, so if the wood is extremely dry then it sometimes doesn't set or sets very slowly. A very slight dampening can help or breathing on it also helps (with the moisture in your breath). Be careful about actually wetting the planks, as too much moisture will cause it to cure incorrectly, it won't hold the joint and you'll get a cloudy white mess.
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having stuck my fingers to various items such as planks, tweezers, each other, i found something to help prevent it happening. there is a product on the baking shelves of supermarkets which comes in a spray, its used for spraying on baking tins so the cakes don't stick, but i find just a little spray on my fingers prevents them getting stuck. it is not perfect but has certainly reduced the frequency of me having to pull my fingers apart. Come on you Jimmies
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Hi Saintsman123! That's a good idea about that spray. Just had a thought though, have you tried painting any of the wood that you've handled with the glue proof fingers yet? I'm just wondering if the wood absorbs any of the spray and whether it would affect the finish of water based paints? Best Wishes Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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[quote=stujue]Can anyone help. I've made a mess of the planking on the launch. I've ordered another issue for another go. Any advice on best glue to use, or how to hold in position while glue sets would be very greatly appreciated
Cheers
only problem with supper glue is it makes the wood less plyable. As pva makes the wood softer
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If you apply superglue gel to the frames rather than the plank, you should find its okay, and if you start at one end and gradually work your way along you should not need clamps or bands.
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There is another option which I used when planking the launch.......hold it in place with an elastic band. I used wood glue and then placed the elastic band over the plank. It will run the full length and wrap around the bow and the stern. It does work...........fiddly but it works.
Mike
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Manaaged so far with the first planks on the launch by wetting them under the hot water tap gradually bending to just a bit more than the required curve and then holding them on a balsa plank with drawing pins until dry, an hour in the airing cupboard is enough. Easy to put on then with super glue. See how we get on with the rest.
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