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Hi everyone, Ive just started to build this amazing model. Its quite large, (as you all know), my previous experience being the Billing Boat Bluenose 576. I shall be posting regularly and look forward to hearing from you all. Onto the build; would it be wiser to glue the frames onto the keel using a building slip before attaching the deck? It just seems to go against everything in regards to building a straight and true hull without any twist or warp in it. Feel free to reply! Thanks. Tommo895 attached the following image(s):
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Welcome aboard there Tommo hope you have as much fun with the build as the rest of us small band.7 Any quiries dont hesitate to ask there are some very good builders on here. Keep up the good work and the pictures coming.  Builds in progress: HMS Victory.HMS Surprise.
Completed builds: Revell London Bus 1/24.
Builds to do:Sovereign of the seas, Hms Albion.
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Hi there Tommo, glad to see you got sorted in the end. Hoping to do the Surprise myself next year some time, so will be keeping an eye on your build. Enjoy the build and welcome to the forum Completed: Endeavour Longboat.Collecting: Yamato
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Thanks for the welcome Steve and Peter! Well, finally received fretboard no 22910-0! Thank you Admin for your assistance, and especially to Mark who very kindly helped me out and went out of his way to sort out my missing fretboard! So, Ive loose assembled the aft keel to the fwd keel and slotted the frames on. Im glueing the frames into position using my building slip so that they are in absolutely perfect position and I dont have any twist or warp in the hull. I know it says not to glue them until the deckboards are fitted, but I think adjusting the deckboard blanks to fit is easier than adjusting the frames to them. Here goes....
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Tommo895 wrote:Thanks for the welcome Steve and Peter! Well, finally received fretboard no 22910-0! Thank you Admin for your assistance, and especially to Mark who very kindly helped me out and went out of his way to sort out my missing fretboard! So, Ive loose assembled the aft keel to the fwd keel and slotted the frames on. Im glueing the frames into position using my building slip so that they are in absolutely perfect position and I dont have any twist or warp in the hull. I know it says not to glue them until the deckboards are fitted, but I think adjusting the deckboard blanks to fit is easier than adjusting the frames to them. Here goes.... Hi Tommo. Thank you for your very kind words. Remember lots of pics and good luck with your build. Best regards. Mark
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Well, Ive finally started. Im going against the guide and glueing the frames to the keel before fitting the deckboards. I cant see how you can achieve a level and true keel and frames if you glue them as shown in the instructions. Ive used a home made building slip as you can see, and this has allowed me to keep all the frames level and at right angles to the keel. A laser levelling tool (£5 from Lidl) has been very useful too. You can see in the close up shot looking along the keel that all the frames are nice and flat and in line. There is a slight kink about midway along the keel, but I will straighten that out whe the planking starts. I have borrowed Magpie's idea of using Tanganika strips for planking the deck, and have ordered 55 500mm strips from Online Hobbies.Cost about £9.00 with p&p. Thats all for now kids! Keep up the good work Tommo895 attached the following image(s):
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Hi Tommo. Your keel jig looks great  . Your off to a fab start. Best regards. Mark
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Nice, the first steps are done! Good luck for the future! Regards, Bernd
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Here are some more images of my build. Feel free to comment! These are shots of frame 25 showing the back tilt, which is in line with the angle of the back of the keel. Tommo895 attached the following image(s):
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In the following images you can see a slight twist in the aft keel section. This can be easily remedied by 'dragging in' as you pin the false deck to the frames and keel, working from front to back and keeping the edge of the false deck on the centre line of the keel as you go. These pics show the twist. Tommo895 attached the following image(s):
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Here are the images showing the twist straightened out and everything looking nice and square. I then fitted the last false deck piece and glued the whole assembly to strenghten it make it rigid. I also pinned a piece of black thread down the centreline, ensuring all was dead centre and lined up. Tommo895 attached the following image(s):
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And so onto the plank work. I borrowed Magpies idea of using 5 x 1 mm Tanganyika stripwood. It looks much more 'oakey' than the supplied material. I marked the edges of each plank with a thick permanent marker pen. Do this quickly and gently, as too much, too long results in the ink 'creeping' into the wood. Each plank is 135mm long. The infill planks front and rear are 90mm and 45mm as required. I pinned a single strip of spare wood, fore to aft, centre, to start a nice straight line. I made a test blank on a piece of ply, and once sanded and semi gloss varnished, it looks pretty good, and thats only one coat! So much easier than using thread between the planks, which also makes sanding tricky because of thread fibres. Please note, in the final couple of pics, quite a few of the outboard planks are just 'laid on', not glued, (just for sizing). Tommo895 attached the following image(s):
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And on and on goes the plankwork! Looking good though! Pleased with the results so far Tommo895 attached the following image(s):
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Hi Tommo ,
Looks awesome mate, The Tanganyika planks do look better.
Chris On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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Very nice work there Tommo, keep up the good work..... Regards Alan
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Nice work on the planking ,looks a treat Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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You are using very good helping tools, good ideas! Regards, Bernd
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A nice cool piece of decking there. Are you going to trenail it, it will look the buisinesss HMS Surprise
HMS Snake
HMS Bounty
HMS Royal Caroline
HMS Victory rebuild
HMS Supply
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magpie1832 wrote:Hi Tommo ,
Looks awesome mate, The Tanganyika planks do look better.
Chris Like Chris said it does look awsome  . Best regards. Mark
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