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Hi All. I've just sent off for a pot of Carrs Metal Black for Steel (which, according to various sources also works on brass and solder). What I need to know is does this concoction have any bad effects on wood? What I'm intending is to scratch build the chains on my Victory (DelPrado) instead of using the kit parts ( real chains!). I'm hoping I can bend the brass around the wooden dead eyes to create the securing link which fixes the dead eyes in the chain plates and then dunk the whole assembly (but not including the chain plates!) to blacken the brass. The wooden dead eyes would be painted black first which should protect them to some extent but has anybody tried this before and if so, any bad effects? (like the wooden bits dissolving I mean!  ) Thanks for any experiences (good or bad!)  Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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My feeling is that it would attack the wood and paint with all sorts of nasty effects, because its main ingredient is quite a strong acid. But it's an interesting idea which would be worth a trial on some wood and paint. There are blackening gels which you can paint on to selected ares which might be more appropriate, I haven't used them myself.
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hi,why not dunk your deadeyes in a bottle of computer printer black ink,and blacken your chains and deadeye holders separatly???? Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Thanks for the comments guys. What I was hoping to try was to form the brass wire around the wooden deadeye forming a smaller 'ring' below it (like a figure 8) and then solder the two ends of the lower ring leaving the deadeye 'imprisoned' inside the brass with the smaller ring then able to take the thin brass wire chain segments which would also be soldered shut. The problem being if I blackened the brass first I don't think it would take the solder on top. I do have some not very good deadeyes left over from the Grimsby (malformed holes etc) so I think experimentation is the way to try it out! Once the Carrs arrives I'll give it a try and let you know how it goes!  Thanks again Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Have a look through my Surprise build Rob, you might find some inspiration on chains and futtocks HMS Surprise
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Hi there Moriarty Just had a look on your Surprise diary, a really brilliant piece of modelling there! Well done indeed!  Yes, the way you did your chains was pretty much the way I was planning to, only difference is I was going to solder the ends of my chains (hence the need for the Carrs Metal Black for Steel instead of just brass). One thing, those little figure of eight pieces which fix the chains to the hull, did you scratch build them or were they from your spares box? If you made them I'd love to learn how! Many thanks for your advice. Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Hi Robin, the pieces you are on about came with the Surprise and anything else is crafted somehow but my spares box has been working overtime on this one. I have even been raiding Harty,s Victory build for the odd bit  . I suppose you could make something similar out of brass strip, not so curvy maybe but rounded on the ends, big job though . Good luck HMS Surprise
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