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Hi can anyone advise on the proper use of blackener I recieved my shiny brass cannons so following the instructions for Krick blackener i diluted the solution 1:1 and dropped 6 cannons into a mug of the solution Instructions say leave for 15 minutes for a darker colouring After 1 hour my cannons were still a shiny brass Having purchased 2 bottles i added the cannons to a mug of undiluted solution this is a lot better and after about half an hour got a reasonable result The next lot of cannons i placed in the solution taking a bit longer to colour but not as dark as the 1st lot more like a dark bronze I take it the chemical reaction gets weaker etc (the liquid is now blue in colour) Any ideas/tips appreciated
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wash the cannons in soapy water and rinse with fresh to re move anny prosses oil or grease from fingers first the instructions says to keep stiring till require colour is reach
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Hi Stuart, Here is the said tutorial..( I Leave mine for a few hours but if stubborn over night is ok.)
Firstly, You need to buy blackener, mine was from CMB. Also some Alchol solution or degreaser. I use Isopropyl Alcohol from the chemists(Only from Chemists as its very inflammable and is used in explossives so is only sold in 1/2 litre bottles).Also needed are various sized plastic only pots/cups or tubs.
First you need to put your brass parts in the Alcohol for 10 minutes and swish around to degrease them. Then prepare your solution which is mixed 1:1 with water. The weaker the solution the lighter the Black. Hot water Activates the process quicker but don't boil the solution.(cold water slow process/warm water faster process).
Next put the Brass part into clean water and move around and lightly scrub the part.Being careful not to handle too much.
Remove from the water and put into the solution wet. Stir the part around with WOODEN spatular( Plank in my case). Leave for 15 minute stirring every now and then. check for coverage and leave for longer if required.
Personally I got a jug of hot water. My solution was in a plastic cup so I sat it on the water so it warmed the solution.
Once coloured to the shade required remove the part from the solution with tweezers or long nose pliers and rinse in cold water. Place on paper towel until dry. You will notice a black powdery coating get a small soft cloth an Buff the part which will uncover your hard work. Chris...
BEWARE>>>>>> The solution is toxic so follow the instructions provided for the handling of the solution>>>>>>>magpie1832 attached the following image(s): On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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thanks to all for replies Cheers Chris i was expecting the cannons to go black in 15mins Done everything else (cleaning)apart from being patient (overnight) Thanks
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Hi All Just read the above tutorial(very good ). Have just received some Krick from CMB but instructions in German. My knowledge of German means I can order food/drinks etc, not play with this stuff .Hence the above is very useful. One more issue I have is the Isopropyl Alcohol.I have found it for sale on amazon and ebay, is this the same stuff as mentioned above? Regards Delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Same stuff, seems to be readily available on Ebay etc., along with all sorts of other chemicals But it's all a bit dodgy as shipping chemicals by post is against the law. Can't be too long before it gets stopped, so buy a gallon while you can. It goes by a lot of other names such as Rubbing Alcohol, Propan-2-ol, IPA, Isopropanol etc. We used it at work by the lorry load it's a great all round general cleaning solvent.
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court orchard wrote:Same stuff, seems to be readily available on Ebay etc., along with all sorts of other chemicals But it's all a bit dodgy as shipping chemicals by post is against the law. Can't be too long before it gets stopped, so buy a gallon while you can. It goes by a lot of other names such as Rubbing Alcohol, Propan-2-ol, IPA, Isopropanol etc. We used it at work by the lorry load it's a great all round general cleaning solvent. Cheers Court, I think I will get mine locally, it seems ebay and the like are a law unto themselves, I told them recently that Golden Apple snails are banned from sale in this country and they are still for sale. The other reason is that my postman delivers my Sots(and soon the Victory)and I don`t want to upset him, as I wouldn`t like the idea of getting my parts looking like splinters. Regards Delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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The blackener I used was used by Magpie I think and it was purchased from a model railway outlet on line. Have a look at his build. That stuff blackens in seconds, not hours like some of them. I think I paid about 7 or 8 quid for it and could well recommend it HMS Surprise HMS Snake HMS Bounty HMS Royal Caroline HMS Victory rebuild HMS Supply
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I use Blacken-It, available on EBay. Works in a few minutes with a clean surface.
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court orchard wrote:I use Blacken-It, available on EBay. Works in a few minutes with a clean surface. Have just used Blacken-it for the first time and have to say I like the initial results.... Be very careful of the vapour it gives off though, do not use in a confined space or your head will spin.... Regards Alan
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