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Hi Alan spot on with the planking, I am very surprised that the instuctions do not cover the thining of the bead line on the keel, this will mean the keel will be thicker than the rudder, if they do not cover it soon it will be to late  Kind regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Plymouth57 wrote:Continuing beautifully there Alan, I especially love that really elegant curve to the stern under the galleries - well done!  Looking at the stern post area where the rudder will be going, if I were you I would pencil mark the line of the plywood over the planking from the keel to that lovely curvy part before you add more planking to the hull, (I forgot to do it in time on the Victory and had to use masking tape instead of a straight edge to trim the overlapping planks back!)  Keep up the great work! Robin Thank you Robin and thanks for the tip on marking a line for where the plywood is under planking, will do that before I continue any further. Appreciate your guidance....  Regards Alan
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claret wrote:Nice planking Alan.
Good fun at the moment!!
Claret. Thanks Claret and yes I agree, great fun, am enjoying the build immensely.... Regards Alan
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MWG wrote:Hi Alan spot on with the planking, I am very surprised that the instuctions do not cover the thining of the bead line on the keel, this will mean the keel will be thicker than the rudder, if they do not cover it soon it will be to late Kind regards Mike Thanks for your positive comments Mike, appreciate it very much and so nice to see you back with us.. Hope that is then end of your broadband problems... Think I saw something about the bead line in the Italian forum, obviously couldn't understand a word of it but think something is mentioned before the 2nd layer is started.... couldn't quite make it out though.... From what I ccould make out and in a way it's a guess, I think we have to leave a 2mm overhang of planks at the stern and these get thinned down, planks at the stern end certainly look a lot thinner.... hope that makes sense.... No doubt time will tell how this is to be resolved.... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:MWG wrote:Hi Alan spot on with the planking, I am very surprised that the instuctions do not cover the thining of the bead line on the keel, this will mean the keel will be thicker than the rudder, if they do not cover it soon it will be to late Kind regards Mike Thanks for your positive comments Mike, appreciate it very much and so nice to see you back with us.. Hope that is then end of your broadband problems... Think I saw something about the bead line in the Italian forum, obviously couldn't understand a word of it but think something is mentioned before the 2nd layer is started.... couldn't quite make it out though.... From what I ccould make out and in a way it's a guess, I think we have to leave a 2mm overhang of planks at the stern and these get thinned down, planks at the stern end certainly look a lot thinner.... hope that makes sense.... No doubt time will tell how this is to be resolved.... Regards Alan Hi Alan Thank your comments and the heads up from the Italian forum, I am glad I have thinned the Keel bead to 1mm thick as thinning the planks is not the best method, this means there will be no plank support on this part of the keel, it does make you think who wrote the instructions!!!!  The Victory is done in the correct way as you will see Kind regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Dig in there Alan, it's coming along just fine, every bit done, is always a bit less to do.
Mo. 🚣. 👍Mo
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MWG wrote:Gandale wrote:MWG wrote:Hi Alan spot on with the planking, I am very surprised that the instuctions do not cover the thining of the bead line on the keel, this will mean the keel will be thicker than the rudder, if they do not cover it soon it will be to late Kind regards Mike Thanks for your positive comments Mike, appreciate it very much and so nice to see you back with us.. Hope that is then end of your broadband problems... Think I saw something about the bead line in the Italian forum, obviously couldn't understand a word of it but think something is mentioned before the 2nd layer is started.... couldn't quite make it out though.... From what I ccould make out and in a way it's a guess, I think we have to leave a 2mm overhang of planks at the stern and these get thinned down, planks at the stern end certainly look a lot thinner.... hope that makes sense.... No doubt time will tell how this is to be resolved.... Regards Alan Hi Alan Thank your comments and the heads up from the Italian forum, I am glad I have thinned the Keel bead to 1mm thick as thinning the planks is not the best method, this means there will be no plank support on this part of the keel, it does make you think who wrote the instructions!!!! The Victory is done in the correct way as you will see Kind regards Mike Hi Mike, can see now where you are coming from... Had another close look at the Italian forum as far down to fitting the keel. From what I can see, the planks are thinned utilising the 2mm overhang. When fitting the keel there is a section to be fitted between the thinned planks down the length of the stern, glued to the thinned planks and the false keel. I suspect it is to this the rudder will be fitted. Whether there is enough support there for the rudder may prove to be problematic.... Have to see how it all works out but believe a great deal of care will need to be taken on that part of the build mainly due to the fragility of the thinned planks.... Certainly not going to learn Italian to find out.....  Regards Alan
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Mo wrote:Dig in there Alan, it's coming along just fine, every bit done, is always a bit less to do.
Mo. 🚣. 👍 Thanks for looking in Mo, appreciate your spending the time and of course your comments..... Finding it great fun and have to say have learned so much regarding planking and especially on how to let the planks lay where they want to lay instead of forcing them into position.... Planking is getting a lot easier as a result.... Regards Alan
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Progress on issue 24 planking. Have completed the next 3 rows on the bow and made some adjustments to ensure the planks lay where they wanted to lay and tapered accordingly... have to say am a lot happier with how it is going now... The marks you see are actually pencil marks but can assure all it is smooth.... Gandale attached the following image(s):
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Not quite finished the stern, still have the wedge piece to fit on one side followed by the final plank on each side... found the best method of shaping the planks to follow the last part of the curve to the keel was steam from the kettle... again am very pleased with how it is going... fiddly but very enjoyable.... Gandale attached the following image(s):
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Thought I'd post a couple of pics with the old girl the right way up... must say I love the pic of the stern, showing some nice flowing curves.... Gandale attached the following image(s):
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Coming along beautifully Gandale  well done as you seem to have a "grip" of this planking malarky Have you thought abought introducing "stealers" for the second planking layer  Only asking so i can copy once i start my build
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budgie wrote: Coming along beautifully Gandale well done as you seem to have a "grip" of this planking malarky Have you thought abought introducing "stealers" for the second planking layer Only asking so i can copy once i start my build Hi Budgie, thanks for your very nice comments... am planking the lower hull with walnut veneer and yes, I have thought of and probably will use stealers... get the first layer over with first though.... Regards Alan
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She's coming along nicely Alan, the hull will look great with a walnut skin
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Tomick wrote:She's coming along nicely Alan, the hull will look great with a walnut skin Thanks Mr T for your positive comments.... decided on walnut because I just cannot take myself to liking the white hull.... think it would get under my skin eventually if I painted it white.... Regards Alan
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Nice work Alan  . Have you bought your Walnut yet? It can be variable in colour/shade, so I'd be tempted to buy it in one lot, so it would hopefully come from the same batch.
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court orchard wrote:Nice work Alan . Have you bought your Walnut yet? It can be variable in colour/shade, so I'd be tempted to buy it in one lot, so it would hopefully come from the same batch. Thanks for the thumbs up Andy, very much appreciated. I have 60 metres of walnut stip 1.5 x 5mm in 1 metre lengths. I am hoping that will be enough to plank the lower hull, bought it use on the lower hull of the Vic... As the Sapele strips are .6mm thick (I think) then I just may purchase more Walnut of the same thickness... will have a think now, still a long way off from that stage as yet.... Not sure if the difference in thickness would present a problem.. Do you know how thick the basswood is that is supplied? Regards Alan
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Hi Alan, Issue 25 arrived last week and it comes with the 1st Basswood strips, so I can answer your question . They are nominally 0.5mm thick, but I've measured a couple and they are even less at about 0.45mm. I would suggest using 0.5mm Walnut, one reason being because it will be much more flexible and easy to bend.
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court orchard wrote:Hi Alan, Issue 25 arrived last week and it comes with the 1st Basswood strips, so I can answer your question . They are nominally 0.5mm thick, but I've measured a couple and they are even less at about 0.45mm. I would suggest using 0.5mm Walnut, one reason being because it will be much more flexible and easy to bend. Andy, you are a star. A 1mm difference is quite large so think I will get some more ordered but at .5mm x 5mm. I think 60 metres should be enough but to play it safe will order 70. Walnut I have at present and any left over from the SOTS will always come in handy for other tasks... Regards Alan
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I would think that that is easily enough, my back of an envelope calculations come to about 30m. But better safe than sorry. As you say it'll always come in useful for the next build.
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