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Hi, Just wondering how many of you have ever used CA glue for planking the hull of a wooden kit? I didnt use it on my Vic but am about to start a corel sloup and am considering it. I can see the advantages, no clamps or pins needed, no holes or split planks and of course the speed verus wood glue. Disadvantages are obviously the grab time can sometimes be a bit quick but if you use thick CA this will give you more adjustment time. Be good to know if anyone has used it and what you think? Cheers Steve
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stevie_o wrote:Hi,
Just wondering how many of you have ever used CA glue for planking the hull of a wooden kit?
I didnt use it on my Vic but am about to start a corel sloup and am considering it.
I can see the advantages, no clamps or pins needed, no holes or split planks and of course the speed verus wood glue. Disadvantages are obviously the grab time can sometimes be a bit quick but if you use thick CA this will give you more adjustment time.
Be good to know if anyone has used it and what you think?
Cheers
Steve Hi Steve, In my opinion Aliphatic resin glue is the best adhesive for sticking wood together, it grabs and and you can sand it. Super glue I find degrades on wood overtime. But other members will have other experiences  Kind regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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I would not use super glue, if you make a mistake and need to go back it will be a nightmare to strip. As Mike says sanding can be an issue as well - PVA and nails all the way for me J “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Superglue als soaks into wood, therefore in some places you could have a very week bond or none at all. It also does not accept stain in the same manner that aliphatic does, and its also expensive by comparison.
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Thanks for your opinions everyone, i have done some searching around and it seems that CA is used widely for deck planks and the second plank layer and as only a drop or 2 is required there is no danger of any glue showing. I didnt know the aliphatic glue could take stain either, so i think i will have a look for this to use next. Steve
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all the above have given their opinion and tomicks advice is sound as always,BUT,there are always exceptions to the rule,i.e. launch? instructions and official build both state SUPERGLUE,on the smaller builds I nearly always use c.a. and great care is needed in doing so.I never use thin c.a.medium and thick is the way to go,whilst planking I damp the plank slightly to accelerate the bonding between the planks and work the planks one rib at a time to ensure that the butting of the planks are level.good prep work is required on each plank like tapering and beveling.and make sure there is no charring on the ribs,or there is no bonding.on the larger models then pva or aliphatic is a must. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Indeed Karl, always exceptions depending on application, but in the main it comes down to personal choice. If one prefer's to use superglue to plank a ship with, then who is anyone to argue..
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I used Evo stick mitre mate on my planking and it works a treat.
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As Karl stated. I used superglue on the hull of the Caldercraft double planked Sherbourne. ( a small cutter ). It does grab fast when wet, so your planking has got to be right first time. Mal.
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Caldercraft - HM Cutter Sherbourne.
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