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jase
#121 Posted : 26 February 2013 08:41:27

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Stunning work keep it up i am enjoying watching this come to life Cool

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#122 Posted : 26 February 2013 10:55:26

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Well done there Walter. A nice clean build. Keep it up
Rgds, Hans
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#123 Posted : 26 February 2013 14:56:18

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Hi Walter.
Whales look good. Keep pictures coming Ian.Cool
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#124 Posted : 06 March 2013 10:57:14

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Here`s a little update:

Finally i started my first attempts to draw a water-line, which turned out easier than i had feared:


Next steps will be painting the lower hull - and then the coming half of a year is reserved for copper tiling :)
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Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
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#125 Posted : 06 March 2013 12:39:34

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Job well done, Walter. Good clean lines, she looks awesome. Keep it up
Rgds, Hans
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Gandale
#126 Posted : 06 March 2013 22:14:46

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Very nice Walter... am following with interest....

Regards

Alan
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#127 Posted : 06 March 2013 22:21:42

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Thanks Hans and Alan!
Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
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#128 Posted : 17 March 2013 18:26:18

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Hi everyone,
a little update:

First i gave the hull below the waterline two coats of copper-paint, so that later little gaps between the tiles would not be obvious.
The waterline was taped and the above hull painted black.
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Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
jase
#129 Posted : 17 March 2013 19:10:46

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Looks a nice neat job

J
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Gandale
#130 Posted : 17 March 2013 19:36:30

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Great start to the tiling Walter.... think you will be seeing tiles in your sleep...LOL LOL

Regards

Alan
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#131 Posted : 17 March 2013 20:34:33

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Hi Walter great start on the coppering,just a word of warning on the last file on the how to copper tile the hull part 5,6,7 it says run a row of tiles along the water line I think this is wrong just run them naturally to the water line it will look 10 times better.I don't know why they say do that because it is a waste of time and effect especially around the stern area doing it the natural way is exactly the same but without the line off tiles. Another tip is when cutting the tiles with a craft knife do it on a hard surface not the cutting mat I found out then tend to bend on the mat and hard to cut very small pieces I went through a lot of blades too.looking Forward to your progress Ben.
DaDokta
#132 Posted : 18 March 2013 08:04:49

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Thanks Jase and Alan!

Thanks for your warnings, Ben.
I won`t be doing the line along the water-line - i have McGowans book with the coppering-plan and will try to follow that plan as far as possible.
I think they do that water-line because maybe its easier to achieve a clear straight line that way.

The cutting of the tiles really is the hardest part of the job. A hard surface is very important.

One other piece of advice for those who didn`t start the tiling yet:

When cutting the tiles you should try and cut the whole lenght of the tile at once.
With the first few tiles i always cutted half of the lenght and then the other half. This led to a strong deformation of the tiles.
(i hope my english is understandable Bored )

Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
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#133 Posted : 18 March 2013 08:11:13

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I found good sharp scissors was the most efficient way of cutting tiles, they do curl a bit but you simply flatten them out again - easy. if you want to ensure a straight line and not use the tiles to achieve it try nailing a baton across the line so you can but your tiles up to it - remove the baton when done.
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DaDokta
#134 Posted : 18 March 2013 11:20:26

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Thanks jase,

i haven`t tried scissors till now - didn`t even think of it!! Embarassing!
I will try it as soon as i get home - will make the cutting a lot easier.

Also the idea with the baton is some good advice!
I´m learning new tricks through this forum every day.

Thank you again,
Walter
Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
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#135 Posted : 18 March 2013 18:21:33

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Hi Walter

I fortunately didn't have your problems with the copper tiles - mine were made from the self adhesive copper anti-slug tape which was far easier to stick in place and to add the nail heads on to as well!
I think with all part-works that are advertised as 'suitable for beginners' there are many short cuts which are added in to make the tasks easier for anyone with no previous knowledge of period ship building, the water line of tiles is one such example, they didn't go like that in real life but it might seem easier for a complete beginner!Blink
I use the McGowan book too, I thinks it's probably the best source of drawings and plans for the Victory available, especially the masts and rigging sections. I was really lucky with my copy, I found it in a little corner bookshop in Paignton, only copy there and reduced from £40 to £9.99! An absolute bargain!!BigGrin

Best of luck with your tiles

Robin
First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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#136 Posted : 18 March 2013 20:57:56

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That`s really a good price! Lucky you, Robin!

The book is full of valueable information.

Greetings,
Walter
Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
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#137 Posted : 19 March 2013 17:50:24

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Hi Walter
The start looks good ThumpUp
I also use scissors to cut the tiles, I bought a "Bonsaischere" for this
I wish much fun doing the rest of the tiling
Kind regards
Peter BigGrin

HMS Victory 1:84 DeA
DaDokta
#138 Posted : 29 March 2013 10:54:20

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Hi guys,

here`s a little easter update of my tiling so far.
It`s really time consuming and applying the stealers at the stern is really a pain in the ass.
But when you look at the result, it`s worth the effort.
It´s such an upgrade for the ship!

Happy Easter to all of you!
Greetings, Walter


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Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
jase
#139 Posted : 29 March 2013 11:01:06

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Doing a better job than I didBigGrin looks fantasticLove
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#140 Posted : 30 March 2013 15:39:41

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That looks great Walter ThumpUp

And you are very fast, I needed 3 Months to get that far Blushing
Kind regards
Peter BigGrin

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