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Captn, I had some serious problems with initial deliveries, but I then waited for a few weeks when we got to the planking section to my benefit in the end. My deliveries have now settled to about 5 weeks behind and it does give me the chance to see what`s going on with other build`s. I understand you started late but when things settle down you`ll have more than enough to keep you busy, don`t lose heart or patience it will be worth the wait. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Thanks for the encouragement, guys.
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Decided to do the anchor from Issue 3. Painted the metal parts with a black car spray from the 99p store. No primer required and it's a good finish but by goodness does it pong! Left outside for hours before I could bring it in. Two changes to the official instructions on making up the stock. First, the cutting plan asks for 2 pieces of 26mm on a long piece of 55mm - leaving a gap for the anchor of 3mm. But the anchor is less than 2mm thick where it goes into the slot, so that would be a very sloppy fit. I had already cut the pieces before realising this. Also the instructions call for a round file to deepen the slot, while the anchor is a rectangular section, so this would add to the bad fit. A change of plan was needed, to get a tight rectangular slot. I didn't think that superglue (recommended to fit the anchor to the stock) was going to fill the gap. Superglue joints should usually be tight. First off, mark the dead centre of one long piece, then glue one short piece just under 1mm off that mark. I used the first piece I had cut, with a dead square end (the selvedge). Let it dry and then fit the other short piece - first squaring the end by lapping it on fine sandpaper (P180). Using the anchor itself as a guide to the fit, glue and clamp then remove the anchor while the glue sets. Next, deepen the slot. Dry-fitting the anchor shows that no more than 1mm extra room is needed, so just a tiny bit from each long piece. To keep the slot rectangular I used the little backsaw given to us free with issue 1. Very gentle strokes with absolutely no downwards pressure on the blade. A stroke on the left of the slot, then on the right, to keep the slot square; then the diagonals to remove the centre waste. Then a dry-fit to see that I have removed half of the amount needed, before doing the same to the other long piece, very slowly until the dry-fit is perfect. The second change was in the shaping of the stock. I was researching to look at the issue of winding cotton (ie rope) around the ring. While I couldn't find anything on that, I did find an article that suggested that only the TOP edge of the stock should be flat. The bottom and SIDES should be shaped to thin out towards the ends. http://www.biganchorproj...=article&id=12:st..
So that is what I did. Bottom edge done first as per the magazine instructions, then the side shaping just by lapping on sandpaper. At the ends, the long pieces are sanded to nothing. Then glue up. I messed up at first by superglueing it in upside down! The flat edge is the top edge. The final clamping needs to have end-on clamps at the tips or they will not hold squarely on the curve. Then a final sand-up. Excess glue removed with a Stanley knife - not digging in like a plane but drawing across with the sharp edge towards you and the blade pushed away from you. That article suggested that the stock should be of two pieces, not three, so I didn't want the glued joints to show and give it away. A careful sanding top and bottom, plus the edges and the tips rounded. No decision yet on the finish. I think it should be oak-coloured then maybe varnished, with a trenail/bolt effect and metal banding rather that the rope suggested by the magazine. Captain David attached the following image(s):
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Nice work there, your work is very clean... well done...
Regards
Alan
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Thanks Alan. I'm just a newbie!
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Nice work there David.Very clean.Keep it up.Regards Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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Nice looking Anchor interested to see how you progress with the build J “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Thanks Martyn and Jason. I wish there was more!
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Hi David good stuff Kind regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Researching the anchor. Useful discussions on here, especially on the Victory anchors. Yes I know they are a later date but similar.
The supplied ring is definitely too small. Karl's tutorial shows a new one made of brass wire - good idea. I thought of using a paperclip, just because I won't have to go out and buy anything. Also, I found my paint didn't take on brass too well.
I will add the "puddening" as well but some of the ring might show so I will spray it black first.
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Captain David wrote:Researching the anchor. Useful discussions on here, especially on the Victory anchors. Yes I know they are a later date but similar.
The supplied ring is definitely too small. Karl's tutorial shows a new one made of brass wire - good idea. I thought of using a paperclip, just because I won't have to go out and buy anything. Also, I found my paint didn't take on brass too well.
I will add the "puddening" as well but some of the ring might show so I will spray it black first. hi cpt,wouldn't worry about painting the anchor ring,after applying the puddening you paint that and any gaps will be filled. then paint the white bits last,then touching up with black to get the clean lines,good luck k. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Thanks Karl. I am still pondering on this one.
Looking at the real Victory's anchors, the ring diameter looks about twice the thickness of the stock. The supplied one on this model is the same size, 7mm. It just doesn't look hefty enough.
Still not sure what do do the puddening with. The original would have been tarred scraps of sailcloth. If I paint over it with an oil paint I suppose any material will do. Then the siezings in white cotton perhaps? A bit fiddly.
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I used black cotton for my Victory then painted the white on. if you are having adhesion problems with your brass try rubbing it on some scotchbright or wire wool if you have it and prime it first. J “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Thanks Jason. I will have to do some experimenting!
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Still playing with the anchor. Decided on a bigger ring. Found a tub of black paperclips. Slightly thicker than the supplied brass ring but will pass through the anchor without redrilling. Bent around a biro, to give a diameter of about 1 3/4 times the original. I might use these paperclips for other things like cannon axles - saves painting. Next, the puddening. This was originally tarred strips of sailcloth, so I decided to do the same. Cut strips about 5mm wide from an old cotton shirt. This may be a really daft idea but I can always remove it later. Nick the cotton with scissors then rip, so it is straight down the warp of the fabric, remove loose threads and trip off the fluffy edge with sharp scissors. Then cut the strip away about 5-6mm from the prepared edge. Wrap round the ring, with a tiny dab of superglue to start and to finish. The superglue makes the ends a bit stiff, so I trimmed back with a Stanley knife and also cut loose threads off with scissors. Ream out the centre by twiddling a pencil around in it. It looks a bit messy at this stage. Never mind. We still have to tar it and add the cord seizings. Tarring was done with black shoe polish (the wax type, not cream) rubbed in well then cleaned off with a cloth. I tried the seizing with basic white cotton from the sewing box - the result was awful and I cut it off. Too fine a thread and uncontrollable. Tomorrow I will try again with the 0.15mm hemp-coloured cotton supplied in issue 1. Even if I decide to scrap this and do it again in a more conventional way, it is fun to try! Captain David attached the following image(s):
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The puddening will be re-done. It is far too thick for the scale and almost impossible to do the cotton seizing on! I think I overlapped each turn too much. Never mind. And I've broken my needle threader - grrr
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More work on the anchor. First attempt at "puddening" has been stripped off - too thick and messy. I need one of those "third hand" bench vices to get some control over the job, so the ring has been put aside for now. On to the banding of the anchor stock. These bands would have been wrought iron, so the mag suggestion of cotton will not look right. Some build diaries suggest black card. I don't have any, so looked around in my workshop and came up with small black cable ties. These are cheap enough in B&Q etc - a bag of 100 for a pound. First attempt was using the main length of the cable tie, smooth side outwards. This looked a big oversize in thickness, so I then tried with the thinner tip of the tie (the bit you use to push through the tie-lock, without the serrations). This is only about 1/2mm thick, which is just over an inch, scaled up to 1/84. The first photo shows both attempts, the thicker one on the top left which I have now removed. Superglued, one side at a time, then the next side once the previous is set. They bend round the corners easily without any need for notching on the back. Pic 2 shows the first band glued in place. It still looks a bit wide, scaling up to about 7 inches at 1/84, so I will try to trim them down a bit. The photo makes the band look thicker than it really is. Captain David attached the following image(s):
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Anchor banding done and first coat of paint. I cut the plastic strip thinner, to about 2/3 the size, under 2mm, and it looks more in scale. The paintjob needs tidying and a second coat. Captain David attached the following image(s):
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Looks good David.... Regards Alan
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