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Thanks Dominic and Mr T. 
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The Case for yet more Photo Etch.This is a little bit of self justification.  I have just acquired Eduard's Boat Etch set, which comes on 2 sheets albeit one of them small. I initially decided against this set as the MK1 etch looked OK and it didn't appear to add much more. However on closer inspection I discovered the following. Firstly the MK1 Oars (all 32) are poor, they are too long and the blades are twice as long as they should be. This is a bit of a pet hate as the Caldercraft Oars are equally bad. The Eduard Oars are correctly scaled and have a degree of 3D on the Blade which looks really nice. Secondly Eduard supply all the Hooks, Webbing etc. to lash the Boats down, in minute detail, this adds another 80 parts to the build. Thirdly, I don't think the planked top surface of the Boats shown on the MK1 etch is correct and also the planks for this and the Decks are too wide and short. This is corrected by Eduard. Finally parts such as the Rudders, Lifebelts, etc. have detail on the Eduard etch, as opposed to flat brass in the MK1. I will however be doing a mix and match as some of the MK1 etch is better.      
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Without doubt the Eduard set is nicer and your are right about the oars. I did not intent to get this as the MK1 set is ok but you may have just sold it on the basis of the holding straps arrrrrrrrr more money!!!!!!   “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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Hi Andy I think you need help m8 your developing a serious etch fetish , seriously though the etch looks good, I cant compare just yet as im still waiting for the MK 1 set and the stuff iv ordered from eduard regards Andy  Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Sorry Jase  Heck we're all into this build for so much money what's another £20. I was looking at the AA Guns there's opportunity for a lot more detail there too, only another 3 weeks
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arpurchase wrote: Hi Andy I think you need help m8 your developing a serious etch fetish , seriously though the etch looks good, I cant compare just yet as im still waiting for the MK 1 set and the stuff iv ordered from eduard regards Andy You're not wrong
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The Main Searchlights with Eduard PE added another 11 pieces per Light. Warning! This is seriously small PE, do not attempt unless you are a little crazy Part Count 187.  
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The etch really illuminates the search light very nicely done “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Hi Andy Pretty soon after you have gone cross eyed with all that small etch we will be calling you clarence  Nice work regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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That is some pretty hardcore detailing there...hope you have a decent optician near you as I think your going to need one..either that or a shrink!" Rob Nolli Illigitimi Carborundum!!!Current Builds: HMS Victory, SV Thermopylae
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Great looking search light Andy, you must have your optivisors set with maximum magnification lenses in place..  ... not to mention a very steady hand.... Regards Alan
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WTG Andy, Amazing detailing, keep it coming. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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court orchard wrote:Sorry Jase Heck we're all into this build for so much money what's another £20. I was looking at the AA Guns there's opportunity for a lot more detail there too, only another 3 weeks Have to agree with both you but I ask myself, why do we model in the first place, for many it is to re-create with as much detail as possible... Think I love far too many builds on this forum that I am spoilt for choice..... Watching this build come together with great interest.... Regards Alan
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@Jase, it does and the Eduard etch is something else, not for the faint hearted, those lifting hitches have to be bent and have the fixing bolts on them. @Andy, there's a blast from the past 'Daktari', I had to a few pieces at a time and then go and do something normal. @Rob, definitely going to need both by the end of this build. @Alan, I can tell you that sneezing is not a good idea Never did find the pieces. @Derek, thanks.
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Stunning work there Andy. Got to agree with the others. nothing wrong with your eyesight. Optivisors or not. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
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court orchard wrote:
@Andy, there's a blast from the past 'Daktari', I had to a few pieces at a time and then go and do something normal.
Why don't they do a re-run of that ,loved it as a kid ...oh & Cowboy in Africa..much better than the reheated drivvle we get now. Rob Nolli Illigitimi Carborundum!!!Current Builds: HMS Victory, SV Thermopylae
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Have just completed all the Cable Reels or Capstans III, IV and V as they are referred to in the kit. There are 10 2 part plastic ones in the kit and these are replaced with PE by both MK1 and Eduard sets. I felt the Eduard PE was a little less bulky, so I have used the Resin centres (which have nice wound cable detail) from MK1 and Eduard PE, except for the 4 Davit Reels supplied by MK1 which are not in the kit or the Eduard sets. In the Photo the Davit Reel is on the left. I have also shown one of the Eduard painted PE figures next to a Reel. Also 2 useful Tools for all this mountain of PE a Rolling Jig and a Cutting Out Tool both made by the Small Shop. Two of the parts for the Search lights need to be pre-curved to fit the Searchlight and the Cut out Jig avoids the PE parts entering that special dimension which means they can Warp Jump incredible distances in totally unexpected directions as they spring from the Fret. Part Count 243.    
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I've spent the last couple of hours preparing the 4 Anchors. Because I bought the Trumpeter Extras Pack, these have Cast Metal Flukes, but with the plastic Shanks and 'D' Shackles from the basic Kit. But bizarrely there is no Shank provided for the Stern Anchor, despite all the holes being there and on the plans it is shown without one, which would leave two odd holes. There is a spare Bow Anchor and it is possible to carefully thin the Shank down on all 4 sides and modify it to fit. I'm just posting this so that no one else will waste 45 minutes looking for it, like I did, it's not there. Part Count 254
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court orchard wrote:I've spent the last couple of hours preparing the 4 Anchors. Because I bought the Trumpeter Extras Pack, these have Cast Metal Flukes, but with the plastic Shanks and 'D' Shackles from the basic Kit. But bizarrely there is no Shank provided for the Stern Anchor, despite all the holes being there and on the plans it is shown without one, which would leave two odd holes. There is a spare Bow Anchor and it is possible to carefully thin the Shank down on all 4 sides and modify it to fit. I'm just posting this so that no one else will waste 45 minutes looking for it, like I did, it's not there. Part Count 254 Top tip thanks “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Andy, I'm just amazed at the detail especially with the etch kits... nicely done... Regards Alan
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