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Captain David
#41 Posted : 06 April 2013 08:10:46

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Thanks again Alan.
I'm still not sure about the paint. It's an experiment.
I mixed red & brown acrylics to get something like Red Ochre.
It looks a bit dull so I may get some spray lacquer or varnish to shine it up a bit.
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#42 Posted : 11 April 2013 15:20:47

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Whoopee!
Finally got another delivery. Issues 6,7,8,9.
Three months since I first put my order in online, I get beyond issue 5.
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#43 Posted : 11 April 2013 22:31:42

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Captain David wrote:
Whoopee!
Finally got another delivery. Issues 6,7,8,9.
Three months since I first put my order in online, I get beyond issue 5.



LOL LOL Looks like you will be busy over the weekend then.... Look forward to seeing how you progress.... BigGrin BigGrin

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#44 Posted : 12 April 2013 07:57:55

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Thanks again Alan. I have already done a bit. Pix soon.
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#45 Posted : 12 April 2013 10:22:25

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The keel is now complete! Woo Hoo.

I have been lucky with the keel parts all being dead straight and flat. Some posts on the forum have reported warping but I have found none.

The staggered joint on this last section was a very tight fit, even after lightly sanding off the laser ash.

After glueing the part on, I sighted down the keel to check it was fitted straight, then added the bracing pieces and sighted again before clamping up. Ribs either side (22 &26) were dry-fitted to make sure they would not be blocked by the bracing pieces, then removed after the clamping in case they got stuck in by any squeezed-out glue.

After unclamping, sighting down the keel shows it to be dead straight. So does holding it against a long steel ruler.

Quite happy.
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#46 Posted : 13 April 2013 11:42:21

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The ship's "launch" now framed up.

Slightly disappointd at the small scale of it. Only 2/3 the size of the launch described for the original boat. There is a discussion of this on the "discussions" board.

Fiddly job. Not made any easier by the slots in the base jig being much too wide by about 1/2mm, so everything is a sloppy fit.

The first part, no. 2, the stem post, just falls over if glued in on it's own.

I made up the first rib with the bracing pieces (3), then fitted it when fully dry, together with the stem-post. Then leave well alone until dried out. Every rib fitting risks disturbing the set of previous ones, so I just did two at a time, leaving to set firm before touching the assembly again. Lots of glue put over the joints after fitting, to fill up the over-wide slots.

Then more mis-fits. The transom support (14) would not butt up to the last rib, so it's baseboard slot needed cutting out by 1mm toward the stem.
Cutting out the transom slot to get the right angle was not possible with the needle files I have, so I started by paring with a craft knife, then finishing with an emery board. The slot is then too wide for a good glue join, so the outer edges have to be well-glued to the baseboard, then brush glue into the slot to fill it.

No mention in the instructions, or the build diary, about NOT completely glueing the transom to the support piece (14) - this part, like the bow formers (3) is not part of the finished launch, so it should fall away when the planked launch is cut from the jig. Glueing it to the transom, above the marked line on piece 15, could cause problems later, so the top 3mm should not be glued.

Looking forward to planking this. Not in the mag instructions so far but I can see what to do on the build diary and there are enough planks already supplied (I think) to finish the job.
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#47 Posted : 14 April 2013 16:19:38

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Keel and frames now all ready and waiting to be glued together, when the lower deck arrives - 3 1/2 weeks!

I used a credit-card (well, not a current one!) as a square to do the parts on frame 27. It gets into a smaller space than any metal square and is lightweight, so less likely to bash the pieces about.

All rib joints reinforced with 5mm ply - the front 2 and back 2 from pieces cut from the fret, all others needed larger pieces, so cut from some scrap ply I had lying around. Ribs 13 and 21 widened at the top with pine strip, to make the fitting of the deck more secure at the places where the deck plates butt together - I will be pinning into a bit more than the ribs.

It's good to see how the shape will build up.
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#48 Posted : 14 April 2013 17:10:50

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Next, planking the launch.

I really thought that these thin planks would just bend to the curve easily. No mention of plank-bending techniques in the instructions.

No way. Three attempts and the planks breaks at the bow.

So, give them a curve. This worked just with cold water - though I will bet that the main boat planks will need hot. Just dipped the end in a glass of water for 10 minutes, then take out and rub a curve into the plank with my thumbnail against the bench, then put back in the water again. Use the same technique as rubbing a curve into ribbon for wrapping Xmas presents.

Next, take the plank out after another 10 minutes and rub a bit more curve into it, then pin around a wine-cork. Leave to dry out overnight.

Photo shows my first failed attempt on the launch, a plank on the cork and the finished dried product.



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Try holding the planks between the nails of your thumb & forefinger & gently pull through a few times till you get the curve you want,if you need to shape it a little just pull slightly to one side & it will produce a small twist.Worked ok for me.
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#50 Posted : 14 April 2013 17:33:31

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Thanks, Rob.
That is what I was trying to do - but I haven't attempted a twist as well!

I suspect that the thicker planks for hull layer number one will need a bit more persuasion as it is done in bamboo. Maybe the second finish layer will be easier though?

It's all good fun though Laugh
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#51 Posted : 15 April 2013 10:50:34

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BigGrin Hi Captain the planking on hull is not so fiddely just soak the bamboo in hot water.Looking goodBigGrin
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#52 Posted : 15 April 2013 11:12:24

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Thanks Martyn.
3 1/2 weeks until my next delivery, so plenty of time to get the dinghy planking right.
The main hull planks may be harder to work with but at least they will be a bit bigger. This will be good practice.
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#53 Posted : 16 April 2013 00:45:42

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Captain, I simply bent and twisted the bamboo planks using steam from a kettle, worked well for me and the process was quite quick too.... only had two planks snap on me.Cool Cool

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#54 Posted : 16 April 2013 07:38:02

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Cheers Alan. I have read so much on here about the bamboo. Some people have found lots of nodes in the planks, others say they are not flat but have a curve on one face, and so on. We will see!
At the end of the day, it gets sanded down and covered up, so I'm not worrying too much at this early stage.
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Hi David, looking good so farBigGrin Kind regards Mike
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#56 Posted : 16 April 2013 08:23:00

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Thanks Mike.
I'm looking forward to getting the lower deck next month, when I will glue everything together.
I got some gel superglue for the launch planking yesterday as the liquid stuff just runs all over the place.
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#57 Posted : 16 April 2013 13:22:06

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Hi David.
Your build is looking good. Keep up the good work.
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#58 Posted : 16 April 2013 21:18:56

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Thanks Ian.
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#59 Posted : 19 April 2013 10:31:01

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Planking of the launch done.
Seriously fiddly job. Not helped by my poor alignment of the stem piece, which I refixed, plus the temporary bow formers being a bit oversized and needing quite a bit of sanding away.
I ended up with some small gaps between planks and some plank edges sticking out where they would not go round the turn of the bilge.
Sanding down has left some parts very thin.
I'm not sure if paint will cover the gaps or if I need some filler.
Then a rib snapped when I cut it from the jig. Cursing
As they are so flimsy, I cut most of the rib tops off with a knife, before sanding the last bits down. Two more rib ends broke off while sanding. Cursing Cursing
Broken bits now glued back in and I am waiting for them to set.
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#60 Posted : 19 April 2013 11:30:17

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Hi David...Very nice work there...ThumpUp
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