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#201 Posted : 10 March 2013 19:52:03
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ian smith wrote:
Hi Derek.
The tiling is a very long time consuming job.
It gives the model the finish she deserves in my view
I prefer the tiles to copper paint bottom. Glue wise I found evo stick serious glue easier on your fingers than super glue and super glue gel, doesn't leave your fingers sore when you get it off.
Hope this helps you to make your mind up.
Regards Ian.BigGrin


Hi Ian,
Yep, mind made up. Copper tiles here I come and super glue free fingersLOL LOL LOL .

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#202 Posted : 11 March 2013 02:14:41

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Hi Derek.
Glad you are going to tile.
Finishes the model nicely.
Reguards ian BigGrin
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Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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#203 Posted : 14 March 2013 09:50:35

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Hi Ian,

first i must say, that i haven`t started my tiling yet - so i don`t know how hard it is.

But i think, you should slow down a little bit with your tiling.
Your tiles don`t run in a straight line, they somewhat run in a wave-like shape, which shouldn`t be.

Also as i understand it, there are no stealer tiles at the bow, the lines should run upwards naturally.

No offence, but take your time, don`t hurry.

Greetings,
Walter
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#204 Posted : 14 March 2013 22:41:20

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Hi Walter.
I am tilling my victory as close as possible to the actual copper tilling plan I have. See picture.
The stealer row you mentioned in the bow was to raise the tiling angle to what I required it to be. There are going to probably be some more added around that area.and more towards the stern area as it goes upwards.the wavey pattern you mention was done by me in one of the lower rows of tiles to give the tiles the curve I required.






Hope this explains what I am doing.
Ian



Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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#205 Posted : 14 March 2013 22:52:56

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Hi Ian, can I ask, did your copper tiling plan come with the mags or was it something you downloaded...... intend tiling my vic and would like to have a close look at that plan..... Keep pics coming of your progress, am sure it will look stunning when done....

Regards

Alan
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ian smith wrote:
Hi Walter.
I am tilling my victory as close as possible to the actual copper tilling plan I have. See picture.
The stealer row you mentioned in the bow was to raise the tiling angle to what I required it to be. There are going to probably be some more added around that area.and more towards the stern area as it goes upwards.the wavey pattern you mention was done by me in one of the lower rows of tiles to give the tiles the curve I required.






Hope this explains what I am doing.
Ian




Hi Ian your tiles are spot on and applied correctlyBigGrin Good job

Kind regards

Mike
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#207 Posted : 15 March 2013 00:07:23

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Hi Alan. Thanks for the comments, the copper plan was not downloaded and did not come with magazine.
I have some friends in RN who got it for me.
IanBigGrin
Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
ian smith
#208 Posted : 15 March 2013 00:08:54

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Hi mike.
Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. Ian BigGrin
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Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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#209 Posted : 15 March 2013 07:18:07

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Looking good there Ian. It would appear that your are heading somewhat to perfection. Well done.
Rgds, Hans
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#210 Posted : 15 March 2013 11:53:10

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ian smith wrote:
Hi Walter.
I am tilling my victory as close as possible to the actual copper tilling plan I have. See picture.
The stealer row you mentioned in the bow was to raise the tiling angle to what I required it to be. There are going to probably be some more added around that area.and more towards the stern area as it goes upwards.the wavey pattern you mention was done by me in one of the lower rows of tiles to give the tiles the curve I required.




Hi Ian,

i`m sorry but to me that makes no sense. You say you want to lay the tiles as close as possible according to the plan - when in the plan there are no stealer rows?
I think the wavy pattern makes the problem even worse, because you will alway have to adjust with new stealers.
I refer to page 3 of the copper-tiling instructions, which can be downloaded in the general discussion section of this forum.
Here it says:"Continue each row towards the bow until there is no room for another one.Do not try to follow the keel up the stem or to taper the tiles as you did with the planking! Keep the tiles running in straight lines. This means that the rows will naturally angle up the bow

I also would like to refer to buzzsaw`s build diary - as in his pictures one can see, how it should be done in my opinion (of course this doesn`t mean, that i will ever be able to achieve such a brilliant tiling!)


Of course for me this is all theory as i didn`t start the tiling myself - and maybe i will then begin to understand, what you are meaning.

Please don`t get me wrong - i would never say, that i can do the tiling better than you - as i have nerver done it.
But i understand this forum as a platform for discussion and not only to say, everything is fine.

Greetings,
Walter
Greetings,
Walter



Present builds:
Revell B-24D Liberator 1:48

On the shelf:
Italeri "Fiat Mefistofele", Italeri "Moto Guzzi California", Fokker "Red Baron", Revell Bismarck, Revell Tirpitz, Arab Dow, Stage Coach, .....

Completed builds:
McLaren MP4/4, D-51 Steam Locomotive, HMS Victory, GWH F-15D Eagle, St. Stephen`s Cathedral (cardboard), Solar-powered paddle Steamer (little project with my son), HMS Victory X-section, "Geli" Phantom II (cardboard)
jase
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I used the same plan Ian and i found it much easier to lay the tiles using it. I have to say i have seen lots of different approaches to the tiling i acutely used two different methods on either side LOL There is not always a right and wrong way as long as you are happy with your finish on your model thats all that matters.

Looking good keep the pics coming Cool

J
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#212 Posted : 15 March 2013 15:47:37

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Hi Hans, Walter, jase.
Thank you for your comments.
Ian BigGrin
Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
ian smith
#213 Posted : 15 April 2013 01:20:49

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Hi guys.
A few more pictures of my coppering so far.










Thanks for looking Ian.

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Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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#214 Posted : 15 April 2013 05:33:40

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Hi Ian, coming on wellBigGrin Kind regards Mike
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Hi Mike.
Thank you for your comments.
IanBigGrin
Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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#216 Posted : 15 April 2013 18:17:57

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Hi Ian,
Looking like a lot of hard work there Ian,keep at it the end result will be worth it.
Trev.
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#217 Posted : 15 April 2013 20:53:45

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Hi Trev.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Yes it is a very long job.
Well worth doing. I think it finishes the model, nicely.
Ian.BigGrin
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Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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#218 Posted : 15 April 2013 23:46:29

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Coming together nicely there Ian, slow process with the planking but will be worth it all in the end I'm sure... Well done..BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan
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#219 Posted : 16 April 2013 13:13:00

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Hi Alan.
Thank you for your comments. I think you got planking and coppering mixed up but I knew what you meant. Thanks for looking Ian.BigGrin
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Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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#220 Posted : 02 May 2013 19:46:14

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Hi guys.
Have just received the missing parts for the cutaway section in the post.so they are on the way. Thanks admin
Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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