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Joined: 30/03/2011 Posts: 1,344 Points: 4,079 Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg. RSA
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Kobus, just remember Jacklin are about 3-4 weeks behind CNA as they send out 4 issues at a time once a month normally round about 23-30th of the month. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
Current Build:
Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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 Rank: Pro  Groups: Registered
Joined: 23/04/2013 Posts: 287 Points: 859 Location: Hartbeespoort, NW, South Africa
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Hi Hans, this is not good news! I've completed upto issue 3 and is waiting for my next issues. Ah, well need to be patient. Thanks for the feedback Kobus
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HMS Sovereign of the Seas - First Build
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 Rank: Semi-Pro Level 1  Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/04/2013 Posts: 71 Points: 216 Location: Benoni, South Africa
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Hey guys, This is my very first model ever. Thought I would start big :). Anyway, have been getting from CNA weekly and have completed up until Issue 4 which came out on Monday. I am scared of the Jacklin route because I subscribe to one or 2 other books for my kids and the postage is a nightmare. Things are posted and then returned because of the incompetence at the post office, so I went to purchase a bunch of tools at a model shop here in Boksburg and am ready to roll waiting for issue 5. Happy Building everyone! Cheers Current Build:
HMS SOTS
HMS Victory
HMS Surprise
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Rank: Pro Groups: Registered
Joined: 23/04/2013 Posts: 287 Points: 859 Location: Hartbeespoort, NW, South Africa
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Good day all, I've received my issues 4 and 5 on Friday in the post from Jacklin. Finished both this weekend and now must wait fot the next issues by post. Wondering if the Jacklin route is the best route? I bought my tools from Jix in Melyn, great help, and my airbrush, pliers and files from Builders Wharehouse. Happy building everyone! Kobus
Current Build
HMS Sovereign of the Seas - First Build
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Rank: Pro Groups: Registered
Joined: 05/09/2010 Posts: 123 Points: 358 Location: Valhalla, Pretoria
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Hi All I have posted a reply on the South African Victory forum. We should maybe ask admin to move the topic to SotS and combine it with this topic. Admin: Is this possible? Regards Andre Current Build: HMS Victory
Built: HMS Bounty
Next Build: Sovereign of the Seas Started collecting. Redrawing of plans for Santisima Trinidad for a scratchbuild. Santisima Trinidad - waiting for launch.
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Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 30/03/2011 Posts: 1,344 Points: 4,079 Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg. RSA
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Welcome to the forum Cuandv. I'm sure you find everything you need on the forum. Dont be afraid to ask there are many experienced members that can help with advice and tips. Hi Kobus, the one thing I have learnt with this hobby is the patience aspect. Even with our post office. Never fear once the build starts in ernest you wont be waiting for issues, but stock piling them as happened with a few of us on Victory. Hi Andre, nice to hear from you again. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
Current Build:
Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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 Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 07/05/2013 Posts: 10 Points: 30 Location: Cape Town
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Good Day All New to this nad loving it. Have built before but the plastic models. Aircraft carrir and the HMS Victory. Just started with SOTS. Upto issue 6 now. Just 2 questions I need answered please. The rib frame no.7 I received in issue 3 fits on the keel just slightly off 90 deg. Will it be a prodlem or do I have to rebuy the issue. I did a dry fit just to see if everything lines up. I'm waiting until issue 12 as I see there will be a strip on the deck to line it all up. 2. Please also advise if these issues will change to a fortnight release or will it remain on a weekly basis. I may be considering going via Jacklin. Regards Mogamad (call me CJ) Current Build - HMS SOTS
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Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 30/03/2011 Posts: 1,344 Points: 4,079 Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg. RSA
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Hi CJ and welcome to the forum. You are in the right place for the right assistance. The rib should be 90 degree however you will probably need a few more ribs to enable to judge correctly whether it is in line or not. The deck support will also indicate whether you need to adjust. You don't have to buy another issue, just be patient and as with the Victory, it is made of wood, so you can cut away or add as you need. CNA stock every week, but Jacklin sends out 4 issues at the end of each month. It might sound as though you will be behind but trust me, by issue 20 plus you will be storing issues. Enjoy your building Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
Current Build:
Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Rank: Semi-Pro Level 1 Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/04/2013 Posts: 71 Points: 216 Location: Benoni, South Africa
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Thanks Hans. I am sure I will be a regular reader and contributor to this forum as this is the first build for me. I am so hooked that I went to purchase the full kit for the HmS Victory in the meantime while I wait for issues for SOTS. A question though, after issue 6, I sit with a keel and a bunch of ribs that are currently dry fitted (until I create a jig). I see the second piece of the keel, in the middle, is slightly warped, thus making the whole base of the ship and the all the ribs attached to keel piece 2 and 3 skew. Now bearing in mind that I have dry fitted the ribs so far, I can take them out. But what is anyone's opinion on straightening the keel. I want this straight before I glue any of the ribs in place. I have read on the UK forum that some people have soaked the keel and then dried it under a heavy object? Any other ideas? I was thinking that if I create a jig and put the ship in it, forcing it straight, and then glue the ribs in and plank it. It will maintain being straight.. Any thoughts? Current Build:
HMS SOTS
HMS Victory
HMS Surprise
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Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 30/03/2011 Posts: 1,344 Points: 4,079 Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg. RSA
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Hi Cuandv. The planking will not pull it straight as the warp is a siseways pressure and will pull the planking with it. Personally I would wet and use tiles/glass and heavy weight on top to straighten, if that does not work, request a replacement. Some builders wait until they fit the decks. If it is only as slight warp this should work, however as I said I would go for my first option. a jog is critical to keeping the build as a whole in a straight line. A skew keel will affect your whole build. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
Current Build:
Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Rank: Pro Groups: Registered
Joined: 05/09/2010 Posts: 123 Points: 358 Location: Valhalla, Pretoria
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Hi All I agree with Hans about straightening the keel. Another method that could be used, is to use supports on either side once it has been straightened using Hans's method. This is open to discussion as I have not done it. I have all the magazines for the HMS Victory but am busy building at issue 86, at this stage it is impossible to build and be up to date as the magazines are issued, unless a person is retired and has lots of time on hand then you could build with every issue. At the moment I do not know what has been delivered by Jacklin but will see it on 17 May when I arrive home from Afghanistan. Regards Andre Current Build: HMS Victory
Built: HMS Bounty
Next Build: Sovereign of the Seas Started collecting. Redrawing of plans for Santisima Trinidad for a scratchbuild. Santisima Trinidad - waiting for launch.
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Rank: Semi-Pro Level 1 Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/04/2013 Posts: 71 Points: 216 Location: Benoni, South Africa
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Hi Guys. I did the soak method on the keel and stuck it on a gladd table in the sun with covered bricks and clamped it down. This I did for about 2 hours and it has certainly sorted alot of the warp out. There is a slight warp left, but I think I can deal with this when the decks get attached. I am also building the Victory (Constructo) at the same time whilst waiting for issues weekly. I am really getting into to this and having to learn helluva quickly but so far I think so good! Current Build:
HMS SOTS
HMS Victory
HMS Surprise
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Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 30/03/2011 Posts: 1,344 Points: 4,079 Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg. RSA
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Hi Andre, its almost time to say, welcome back. I'm only on issue 99 at the moment and realised that that last 10 issues have gone by very slowly, as there is a lot of work to do and takes alot of time. Good luck. The postal system is still slow so don't be too excited, enjoy. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
Current Build:
Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/05/2013 Posts: 14 Points: 32 Location: Cape Town
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Hi I have decided to take up the challenge in building the SOTS model. I am looking forward to the challenge but I am frustrated with the waiting process, as I have ordered through Jacklin. I have joined a model ship building club in Cape Town who meet once a month, to get some advice. But I appreciate that the forum is in place as I am sure I will gain from the experience you all have. Question: does it make sense to consider building the HMs Victory at the same time, considering the delay in getting the next issues? Is the ship worth building? Regards Chantel Current Build
HMS Sovereign of the Seas (First time build)
Future Build
Still deciding
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/05/2013 Posts: 14 Points: 32 Location: Cape Town
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Hi, Two more questions from the newbie  : 1. How do I include the current build and wishlist on my messages? 2. Where do I load my builders log of my ship as I go? Is there a specific area or do I load it in this forum section? I finsihed my two cannons and would like to "show them off".  Looking forward to hearing your feedback. Regards Chantel Current Build
HMS Sovereign of the Seas (First time build)
Future Build
Still deciding
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Rank: Pro Groups: Registered
Joined: 23/04/2013 Posts: 287 Points: 859 Location: Hartbeespoort, NW, South Africa
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Hi Chantel I'm a Newbie myself but nontheless welcome!  To include your current built and wishlist go to the top of the page and you'l see the tab ' My Profile', under there you will find 'My Signature'. There you can add all your info. Under profile you can even load your 'Avatar'. I'm not sure where you will be able to load your build. Regards Kobus
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HMS Sovereign of the Seas - First Build
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Hi Chantel You can put your build here as its the SA forum or you could open a new build thread in the Main SotS members build diary's, its your choice here. Hope this helps regards Andy  Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Rank: Master Groups: Registered
Joined: 30/03/2011 Posts: 1,344 Points: 4,079 Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg. RSA
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Hi Chantel. Welcome to the forum, any information you need or help for that matter you will find here on the forum. In answer to your question in Pierre's thread, I am with Pierre, if you have the time and space go for another build, however I would suggest a smaller and easier model like San Francisco or the Endevour longboat something along those lines. This will help build up your skill level. HMS Victory and SOTS are a little more difficult and require time, patience and plenty of reading, the build diaries are a tremendeous help in this area. Not putting you off by any matter of means, Victory is my first, but I do wish sometimes that I built up a set of skill with smaller models. Good luck, hope to see your build soon. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
Current Build:
Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/05/2013 Posts: 14 Points: 32 Location: Cape Town
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KobusBeukes wrote:Hi Chantel I'm a Newbie myself but nontheless welcome! To include your current built and wishlist go to the top of the page and you'l see the tab ' My Profile', under there you will find 'My Signature'. There you can add all your info. Under profile you can even load your 'Avatar'. I'm not sure where you will be able to load your build. Regards Hi Kobus, Thank you for the information. Good luck with your build. Please keep me updated on how you go. I am upto episode 6, and I am waiting now for my delivery from Jacklin.  I have finished the two cannons, which I really enjoyed completing. Regards Chantel Current Build
HMS Sovereign of the Seas (First time build)
Future Build
Still deciding
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/05/2013 Posts: 14 Points: 32 Location: Cape Town
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arpurchase wrote: Hi Chantel You can put your build here as its the SA forum or you could open a new build thread in the Main SotS members build diary's, its your choice here. Hope this helps regards Andy Thanks Andy, I will start my builders diary in the SA Forum SOTs section with my two cannons and half built false keel . Current Build
HMS Sovereign of the Seas (First time build)
Future Build
Still deciding
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