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Hi All,  I`ve looked at some great ongoing builds and am interested in the black boxwood being used for the upper hull section. So the questions :- Varnish finish? How much required? Where from? How much additional cost? Ease of use? Thanks in anticipation Sorry if too many questions  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Too many questions Derek  From here http://www.originalmarquetry.co...egory_Wood_Veneers_1.htm where you'll see the price. How much depends on the width you choose, but about 6-8 metres per side. Varnish? What's the question? Very easy to use, much easier than the Sapele.
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Hi Court,  Sorry, trying to be to quick. Question of varnish is about the best finish. I am doing the painted version, but thought maybe a natural black veneer maybe better, but then again a mixture of finishes may not be such a good idea. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Derek, I wasn't sure whether you were asking if I'd Varnished already. I haven't decided about my final finish yet. The Boxwood looks really nice, even better than the photo's show. But I guess we're talking about another £20.
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court orchard wrote:Hi Derek,
I wasn't sure whether you were asking if I'd Varnished already. I haven't decided about my final finish yet.
The Boxwood looks really nice, even better than the photo's show. But I guess we're talking about another £20. Cheers Court, The £20 can be covered, (I just won`t tell her )but how will a painted lower hull mix with a varnished upper hull? Never done this before hence the questions,  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Derek, If I paint then I would use Acrylics which I would coat with some kind of varnish anyway. But, you're going to have Bare Sapele Wood between the Lower Hull and the Upper Hull anyway.
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court orchard wrote:Hi Derek,
If I paint then I would use Acrylics which I would coat with some kind of varnish anyway. But, you're going to have Bare Sapele Wood between the Lower Hull and the Upper Hull anyway. Cheers Court, Many thanks for you time and advise  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Del
I think if you are going for black boxwood bare sapele and a painted underside,I would paint the underside in acrylic paint and then varnish the whole lot in one go.My final finish is gonna be ronseal mattcoat sprayed on.75%varnish 25%white spirit.This is a clear polyurethane and will make the acrylic much more durable.
Hope this helps
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Hi Del
I think if you are going for black boxwood bare sapele and a painted underside,I would paint the underside in acrylic paint and then varnish the whole lot in one go.My final finish is gonna be ronseal mattcoat sprayed on.75%varnish 25%white spirit.This is a clear polyurethane and will make the acrylic much more durable.
Hope this helps
Kind Regards Nigel Cheers Nigel, More great info, thank you very much for your time and effort to make an easily understandable reply. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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So there is no varnishing of the sapele at all? Also, am I missing something, the boxwood on the page Andy linked to is not black
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i'd say varnish the whole hull, painted or not Processing - Progressing
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RobT wrote:So there is no varnishing of the sapele at all? Hi Rob, What Nigel is saying above is that for my choice of painting/ varnishing, I need to varnish the whole hull in one go,after painting the lower hull and using black boxwood and sapele for the upper hull. Hope this explains your query. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Think so.
Plank the hull, sapele and boxwood. Prime the lower hull, paint it, varnish everything. Correct?
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Hi all
Yes varnish everything after the painting.As a note if you used brilliant white for the bottom,when you varnish it will yellow slightly and get rid of the garishness.
Kind Regards Nigel
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Cheers mate, deffo gonna use this, yours looks mint.
Did you use the 4.5 or the 6mm though?
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RobT wrote:Cheers mate, deffo gonna use this, yours looks mint.
Did you use the 4.5 or the 6mm though? I used both, but it was because I had ordered both. Because of the bend, the 4.5mm is easier to use.
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When changing from Sapele to the black box wood. is it a straight swop of planking if so are there any dimensions. Or did you have to put in tappered sapele to achive a line before starting on the box wood. I havnt seen any dimensions for the painted black area yet in the magazines. cheers Stu Cheers Stu
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Hi Stu, The Dimensions are given in Issue 39, which are basically the dimensions for masking for the Black Paint. I Tapered the Sapele to this line, the Boxwood then just curved to this, I didn't Taper any Boxwood.
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