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Thanks for the encouragement again, Alan, Hans and Peter. I have started planking now. A backlog of photos to add here...
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Fitted the stern assembly. Issue 16. For some reason, I found that the half-frames 49 and deck extension 47 didn't fit properly. When the deck piece was fitted on to the tabs on the ribs - a tight fit - then the ribs splayed out at the bottom by about 1mm. No way of getting a clamp on those curved areas, so I tied pinning them. That was no use, as putting in pins at the thin bottom tips was splitting the ply and not holding. The only thing to do was pull it apart, clean off the glue and rethink. The ribs have to fit properly with a good glue fix, so I decided to fit them where they wanted to go, then modify the deck piece. The slots in the deck were lengthened outwards, until the fit worked. Dry-fitting the stern assembly showed me two issues: 1. The assembly moved around a bit on the keel, so I could not be sure it would glue in dead square. 2. There is no way of clamping the reinforcement pieces, to get a tight joint for the glue. To fix both issues, I used packing, with spare bits of fret. The average of the thickness required seemed to be about 10 1/2 mm, so I prepared 2 bits of 4mm fret, 2 of 2mm and some squares of card, for each side, then tried equal amounts of each material until the fit was tight. Captain David attached the following image(s):
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Hi David . I had the same problem with mine and did the same fix and have not found a problem later in the build .Happy building Rgd Martyn Building ? Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa Next Build ? When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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Thanks Martyn. I am planking now, so more fun to come...
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Nicely done David, well worked out... The stern assembly is a little tricky and a tight fit..... ... Looks goo d to me.... Regards Alan
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Thanks again Alan. The planking has started!!! Pics to follow but I think this may take some time...
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Profiling the stern and the rib 26 problem. Thanks to others mentioning the problem, I was looking out for this. When I started to sand the profile, it was pretty clear that rib 26 was not getting sanded down at all. Trialing a bamboo plank across this area showed an obvious need for filling out the rib, by just over 1mm - certainly in the area of the first few planks. Spare planking strips from the ship's launch gave me 1mm and 0.5mm stuff to use. I glued on a bit of the 1mm, then tried the plank again. The problem looked solved, so I didn't add a 0.5mm piece here. On the opposite side of the rib, a 0.5mm piece did the trick. This worked for my build but might be slightly different for other people, depending on rib alignment etc. Captain David attached the following image(s):
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Looking good David.... does this mean you are about to start the planking..... enjoy!!.. .. Looking forward to watching your progress... Regards Alan
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Yes, Alan. Planking started. I must post some photos...
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Stern Planking done. Now the fun starts I started with the plank that butts against the keel. The instructions ask for something different - the first plank to be the one at the tips of the frames - but I couldn't be sure of it's exact positioning, due to the two curves of the frames. Not only does the plank have to bend in to the main curve of the frames but also there is a curve in the plank tips. So, that plank in, I then added four more, then sanded the last one to match the curve of the frame tips, ready for the vertical planking. My big mistake with the short planks around the keel.... not checking the width of the planks I was using One of the planks was narrower than normal. I had already pinned in two lengths before noticing that one side was now higher than the other. I left them in place, as all this will be covered up, but it is a lesson for the future, when I do the final layer which will be visible. For the final pieces at the top and bottom, I whittled these down with a Stanley knife to the rough shape. All of the pin-holes were pre-drilled with a 0.6mm bit. To get the positions right I had to hold each plank in to the curve and mark positions with a pencil, then drill the holes with the plank on a worktop, push pins in enough to hold them, then glue and fix. Then sanding down to shape. The instructions ask for sanding to the profile of rib 27. Laying a test plank along the sides shows that a lot more needs to be sanded off than that. I used a sanding stick in line with the aft 3 ribs, so not in line with rib 27 but at an angle corresponding to the rib's profiled edge. Final sanding will be done as each plank is laid, testing how it affects the shape. I ended up sanding the top almost vertical for the first two side planks, so they will be in line with the gallery panels above them. Captain David attached the following image(s):
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Looking good David, looking good..... .. Onwards and upwards albeit slowly.... Keep up the good work.... Regards Alan
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These early stages do seem a bit slow, Alan. I only have up to issue 17 so far...
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Captain David wrote:These early stages do seem a bit slow, Alan. I only have up to issue 17 so far... Maybe it is a bit slow David but above all else, please take your time... .. Always remember this is not about how fast you can build a model but more about how well you can build it..... it's not a race.... .. Keep going as you are doing.... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Captain David wrote:These early stages do seem a bit slow, Alan. I only have up to issue 17 so far... Maybe it is a bit slow David but above all else, please take your time... .. Always remember this is not about how fast you can build a model but more about how well you can build it..... it's not a race.... .. Keep going as you are doing.... Regards Alan Hi David, I have to agree with Alan, accuracy over speed any day. Believe me, when you get a few more issues on in the build you will have plenty to keep you busy. Keep up the good work and updates. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi David, you say you are on issue 17.... to give you an idea I am trying to finish issue 37 and issue 43 is about to be released so I am about 6 weeks behind.. Likely to fall further behind as time goes on but to me it really doesn't matter as long as I am achieving the results I am happy with..... Regards Alan
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Thanks Alan. I wasn't suggesting that I am slow! Issue 17 is the latest one that I have, as I started my subscription late. I am now doing hull planking with what I have, even though my instructions only take me up to the very first strake. Next month I will get 18, 19, 20 and 21 - more planking!
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Captain David wrote:Thanks Alan. I wasn't suggesting that I am slow! Issue 17 is the latest one that I have, as I started my subscription late. I am now doing hull planking with what I have, even though my instructions only take me up to the very first strake. Next month I will get 18, 19, 20 and 21 - more planking!
Hi David, slight misunderstanding... Wasn't suggesting you were slow but merely trying to point out that as the issues are released and the work increases you are likely to find as I am, that falling behind will probably be a normal trait.... .. Apolgies for any misunderstanding... Regards Alan
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Thanks Alan I expect that I will get bogged down a bit with the rest of the planking! Enough planks now to do five of the top rows - but they are the easy ones. Next delivery in a week and a half. Then I will have to tackle the planking around the stern.
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More profiling. All done now except the stern below the transom. I wish I had known about the need to cut away some of the aft reinforcing pieces - to create the "bearding line". I would have cut off the excess before gluing these pieces in place. Three layers of planks in place. Already I notice a difference in the total depth covered, between port and starboard. This is due to the different widths of the planks. The photo shows planks for layer number four, soaked and pinned in place overnight. I will swap these around when I fit them, as I want the wider plank on the port side to correct the difference in total depth. Captain David attached the following image(s):
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Coming along nicely David, you will notice subtle differences as you progress with the planking.. Try to be very selective about the planks you are choosing for each side and hopefully that way you will be able to keep the planking looking balanced... .. Keep up the good work... Regards Alan
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