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Looking fabulous Admiral, looks as if your mods are turning out to be a great success....  .. Really looking forward to seeing how the lighting project works out.... .. Will be looking out for more posts from you.....  .. Great work..... Regards Alan
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top class work Admiral. im watching in awe Cheers Stu
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NMBROOK wrote:Some very interesting and exciting work going on here Admiral.The windows in the hull is another reason I want to get the carving layout sussed on my model.There is a small window that you have missed.It is within one of the carvings above the cupolas.You may not be able to make it out in Septon's book.You can see it clearly in Bill Short's log on MSW.You will find everything is a bit of a juggling act with the stern in that you are trying to make it faithful to the artwork,but some compromises have to be made due to the hull form we are given.This happened again when I fitted the horizontal pear strip.According to the artwork it should meet the side gallery at the top,but if I had curved it round to meet that point it would just look wrong.You will discover that this aspect can make mods harder than a scratchbuild.
Kind Regards Nigel Many thanks Nigel, i didn't notice that small window there but i did notice the one just to the side of the bigger windows, i'd hate to cut out holes now and then have to change them when putting the carvings in, so i'll probably leave those last and just have to do a clean job of cutting them when i've made the carvings. with the stern i understand what you're saying, either proportions are going to have to be changed but that might make cutting the decorations even harder so unfortunately as you say compromises will have to be made, though its still great fun experimenting and messing around because im sure it'll help in the future when i might start scratch building, thankfully your expertise are a great help in leading me in the right direction Processing - Progressing
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Gandale wrote:Looking fabulous Admiral, looks as if your mods are turning out to be a great success.... .. Really looking forward to seeing how the lighting project works out.... .. Will be looking out for more posts from you..... .. Great work..... Regards Alan thanks Alan the lighting is a bit of a pain because theres a few windows around the ship and it'd probably make the job alot easier if i didn't choose to use LEDS, but in the end hopefully i'll be glad, if not i could always just turn them off  i've made more changes so i'll probably have more posts soon Processing - Progressing
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stujue wrote:top class work Admiral. im watching in awe Thanks for your interest Stu! comments are always a pleasure Processing - Progressing
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Hi Admiral, Interesting mods you are contemplating. Looking forward to more posts. Regards Claret Also working on:
SOTS.
Moebius 1/32 Flying Sub with PE & lights.
Waiting in the wings:
Polarlights Spindrift from Land of the Giants.
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claret wrote:Hi Admiral,
Interesting mods you are contemplating.
Looking forward to more posts.
Regards
Claret Thank you claret Processing - Progressing
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Heres the next part, its to extended the bulwarks so they match given reference, otherwise i dont think the decorations will fit. After having finished most of the bulking of the walls i think i'll plank boxwood straight onto them eventually, but im not sure yet what height the decks will be at, i may discard the supplied cannons and make my own which will be taller matching cannons of this era, but first i want to get the hull planking of the way, and then the wales, and then finish up the gun ports, after that possibly work on the deck or the stern gallery.  Processing - Progressing
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Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:Heres the next part, its to extended the bulwarks so they match given reference, otherwise i dont think the decorations will fit. After having finished most of the bulking of the walls i think i'll plank boxwood straight onto them eventually, but im not sure yet what height the decks will be at, i may discard the supplied cannons and make my own which will be taller matching cannons of this era, but first i want to get the hull planking of the way, and then the wales, and then finish up the gun ports, after that possibly work on the deck or the stern gallery. Nice work and well spotted Admiral I concur with the aft extension,the front one on your ref.model differs from the vdev engraving.Like I said compromises have to be made and there are variations in the artwork depending on the artist,so at best all we can hope for is our representation.The biggest issue for me I think is the upper gunport spacing as it is not even like in the artwork,I am not prepared to change that so I will have some creative amendments on the decor to suit.Never the less I am still finding this far more enjoyable than straight out out the box and I dare say you probably are too. Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:Heres the next part, its to extended the bulwarks so they match given reference, otherwise i dont think the decorations will fit. After having finished most of the bulking of the walls i think i'll plank boxwood straight onto them eventually, but im not sure yet what height the decks will be at, i may discard the supplied cannons and make my own which will be taller matching cannons of this era, but first i want to get the hull planking of the way, and then the wales, and then finish up the gun ports, after that possibly work on the deck or the stern gallery. Nice work and well spotted Admiral I concur with the aft extension,the front one on your ref.model differs from the vdev engraving.Like I said compromises have to be made and there are variations in the artwork depending on the artist,so at best all we can hope for is our representation.The biggest issue for me I think is the upper gunport spacing as it is not even like in the artwork,I am not prepared to change that so I will have some creative amendments on the decor to suit.Never the less I am still finding this far more enjoyable than straight out out the box and I dare say you probably are too. Kind Regards Nigel Thanks nigel, I agree though i suppose having to make compromises isn't too bad as it may prepare you for later kit/scratch build problems. i think not just the gunport spacing but the whole ship is completely different, i was surprised to find its not even close to being the same as the ship on the front of the magazines and advert, but yes i am having loads of fun working on this, it may not be what i expected but without it i'd probably die of boredom but yes its nice to be following my own path rather than instructions, not to say i wouldn't like another kit Processing - Progressing
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Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:Heres the next part, its to extended the bulwarks so they match given reference, otherwise i dont think the decorations will fit. After having finished most of the bulking of the walls i think i'll plank boxwood straight onto them eventually, but im not sure yet what height the decks will be at, i may discard the supplied cannons and make my own which will be taller matching cannons of this era, but first i want to get the hull planking of the way, and then the wales, and then finish up the gun ports, after that possibly work on the deck or the stern gallery. Nice work and well spotted Admiral I concur with the aft extension,the front one on your ref.model differs from the vdev engraving.Like I said compromises have to be made and there are variations in the artwork depending on the artist,so at best all we can hope for is our representation.The biggest issue for me I think is the upper gunport spacing as it is not even like in the artwork,I am not prepared to change that so I will have some creative amendments on the decor to suit.Never the less I am still finding this far more enjoyable than straight out out the box and I dare say you probably are too. Kind Regards Nigel Thanks nigel, I agree though i suppose having to make compromises isn't too bad as it may prepare you for later kit/scratch build problems. i think not just the gunport spacing but the whole ship is completely different, i was surprised to find its not even close to being the same as the ship on the front of the magazines and advert, but yes i am having loads of fun working on this, it may not be what i expected but without it i'd probably die of boredom but yes its nice to be following my own path rather than instructions, not to say i wouldn't like another kit I know what you mean,chris watton's Victory gets more and more tempting as it moves along,just have to sell those vital organs in time for it's release Kind Regards Nigel
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Hi Admiral, I can honestly see you are enjoying the challenges of modifying this build and what you have achieved to date is to be admired with pride.... ..Love it....  Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Hi Admiral, I can honestly see you are enjoying the challenges of modifying this build and what you have achieved to date is to be admired with pride.... ..Love it.... Regards Alan thanks for the great comment alan, much appreciated i am enjoying this build changing stuff around but i would love to have the planking finished and move onto something different, but im almost done so its no problem Processing - Progressing
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NMBROOK wrote:Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:Heres the next part, its to extended the bulwarks so they match given reference, otherwise i dont think the decorations will fit. After having finished most of the bulking of the walls i think i'll plank boxwood straight onto them eventually, but im not sure yet what height the decks will be at, i may discard the supplied cannons and make my own which will be taller matching cannons of this era, but first i want to get the hull planking of the way, and then the wales, and then finish up the gun ports, after that possibly work on the deck or the stern gallery. Nice work and well spotted Admiral I concur with the aft extension,the front one on your ref.model differs from the vdev engraving.Like I said compromises have to be made and there are variations in the artwork depending on the artist,so at best all we can hope for is our representation.The biggest issue for me I think is the upper gunport spacing as it is not even like in the artwork,I am not prepared to change that so I will have some creative amendments on the decor to suit.Never the less I am still finding this far more enjoyable than straight out out the box and I dare say you probably are too. Kind Regards Nigel Thanks nigel, I agree though i suppose having to make compromises isn't too bad as it may prepare you for later kit/scratch build problems. i think not just the gunport spacing but the whole ship is completely different, i was surprised to find its not even close to being the same as the ship on the front of the magazines and advert, but yes i am having loads of fun working on this, it may not be what i expected but without it i'd probably die of boredom but yes its nice to be following my own path rather than instructions, not to say i wouldn't like another kit I know what you mean,chris watton's Victory gets more and more tempting as it moves along,just have to sell those vital organs in time for it's release Kind Regards Nigel ahah that ship is amazing but truely huge , to get it i may have to sell all my organs just to get that ship and then use it as a coffin because its so big! Processing - Progressing
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Hi Admiral, have just been looking at Chris Watton's Victory and have to agree she is such a stunning looking build.... .. think your work is superb and look forward to seeing more.... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Hi Admiral, have just been looking at Chris Watton's Victory and have to agree she is such a stunning looking build.... .. think your work is superb and look forward to seeing more.... Regards Alan a top quality build for sure, i think what attracts me most about his build is the work on the hull frame, i dont think theres any other model like it. And thank you for the comment, at the moment just looking forward to finishing this planking, almost done but knowing me it might be a week or so before then ^^ Processing - Progressing
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Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:Gandale wrote:Hi Admiral, have just been looking at Chris Watton's Victory and have to agree she is such a stunning looking build.... .. think your work is superb and look forward to seeing more.... Regards Alan a top quality build for sure, i think what attracts me most about his build is the work on the hull frame, i dont think theres any other model like it. And thank you for the comment, at the moment just looking forward to finishing this planking, almost done but knowing me it might be a week or so before then ^^ Don't forget the FULLY detailed interior  Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:Gandale wrote:Hi Admiral, have just been looking at Chris Watton's Victory and have to agree she is such a stunning looking build.... .. think your work is superb and look forward to seeing more.... Regards Alan a top quality build for sure, i think what attracts me most about his build is the work on the hull frame, i dont think theres any other model like it. And thank you for the comment, at the moment just looking forward to finishing this planking, almost done but knowing me it might be a week or so before then ^^ Don't forget the FULLY detailed interior Kind Regards Nigel a good point! i almost forgot about that, may have to go back and take another look Processing - Progressing
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FINALLY finished one side of planking, pretty pleased although i wish i could of done it better without having to cut up planks into awkward shapes, no idea how im going to replicate this onto the other side  (pretty dirty and bad quality, will clean it up tomorrow)   Processing - Progressing
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Good Work Admiral You may find it easier to finish the other side off,to first start at the keel and work upwards,this is how I did it.Because of the relatively flat bottom it is quite an easy job to take measurements from each side of the keel to ensure that the planks are the same both sides.You will end up with a 'grey area then where the hull turns the corner upwards but by that time you will only have a few planks left.on the last section it is simply a question of measuring the remaining gap as you lay each plank to check it corresponds to the other side.Any really awkward bits,I find it better to shape a group of planks and trial fit first altogether before committing to glue.It is easy enough to find that the second to last plank you shaped wants to go in the recycling.If it's glued on it's a swine to get off. Kind Regards Nigel
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