hi..do you want to know what colours you will need to paint the victory?

Your enthusiasm is admirable but make sure that whatever paints you use you need to prep the surfaces thoroughly before you begin.

As steveblyman kindly points out, I have written a pretty thorough walkthrough on the brushworks thread that covers a lot of the groundwork that you might want to take into account before lifting a brush. You probably won't need reminding that this build will probably cost more than £700 to complete, so it goes without saying that getting the right paint for the job is not only cost effective, but will give you the best chance of getting a result you can be proud of.

Unfortunately, as you know, Humbrol use a number system for their paints which is as much use as a chocolate teapot when it comes to giving people advice on which colour is yellow ochre.

Your best bet, if determined to use Humbrol, is to refer to pictures of the real HMS Victory, find an online retailer that uses colour swatches on their website and pick the colours that most closely match.

Happy building.

Good find.



But would you recommend Humbrol for this build?

Come to think of it; if you were painting, what paints would you use?

Personally Rich, I don’t rate Humbrol paints to highly for any project but they are the popular choice for model shop stockists which probably has something to do with their general popularity!!!

My Choice is the same as yours, good old Vallejo but with my current build HM Pickle I thought I’d try out the much talked about Admiralty range, based on the standard primmer followed by a 2:1 ratio they go on nicely with a good clean crisp finish - quite impressed with them actually

Phil

Your right there mate.... Vallejo is the way to go with all figure painting (except flesh areas)

Phil

Yayy!! Go me! he he... only kidding..

All sound points - although I'm not entirely sure about the quote above.. (But thanks for the compliment nevertheless)..



Seriously; as with most things, there is more than one way to 'skin a rabbit' and I KNOW that there are a few other experienced and talented painters out there

*waves*

It all boils down to cherry picking the ideas and techniques that work for the individual and, if one is inclined to take things further, developing them into an individual style.

A lot of people will be happy to simply lay a coat of paint down and 'colour-in' their model (since becoming interested in ship modelling, I have noticed that this is the most common method), whereas in other areas of the hobby - most noticeably miniature painting, military modeling and model aircraft building, there is a lot more attention applied to getting a photo-realistic finish and weathering (The latter would be, in my opinion, inappropriate on a period ship unless done with mind blowing accuracy in a diorama setting).

So, with the majority of members being happy to get a nice, even layer of paint on their model, I and the other painters, (you know who you are) can offer advice that will help them achieve this and maybe even add to each others knowledge in the process.

If folk want to take things further - I and others will be happy to advise on how to do it.

There's a lot of satisfaction to be gained from knowing that one's advice has helped another modeler to improve their skills.

Mike.

The simplest route would be (once you have sanded things down to a finish you are happy with) would be to apply a coat of sanding sealer, wait for it to dry, give the surface another gentle sanding and then start applying thinned coats of white paint over all surfaces (white being the best primer colour for light finishing colours - such as yellow). Once you have built up an even colour over the whole launch, you can then apply the colours - I use aerosol primers because they are quick and provide an even, flat finish that's ready for painting far faster than brushed-on Primer.

The really important thing is to allow each coat to dry THOROUGHLY - if you don't, the previous layer is likely to soften and tear in places (this is mainly an issue with acrylics).

The reason I lean toward a plastic-smooth finish (no offense taken, I do understand) is that whilst I would like to see some fine edges to the planks, there is no guarantee that the edges of the planks would be the only things proud of the surface of the planks themselves.

As an example of what I am trying to get at, take a look at the pic of the painted build on the first page of the introductory 'Welcome to Build Lord Nelson's HMS Victory' pamphlet that came with issue one.

Whilst you can see the planking construction, you can also see a horribly-out-of-scale surface to it, with wood fibre sticking out all over the place - most noticeable on the Yellow Ochre banding (perhaps it's the reason why the covers up to now seem to exclusively feature the wooden build and not the painted one). It's not exactly the best advert for the model.

Sorry just to chip in for a sec, in terms of these vessel builds I always use this sealer (top of the page 1020)

www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/fillers.html

Phil

thanks capt stedders after all the discussions i orderd with cornwall model boats
thanks to all the replys just waiting for delivery
cheers turboman

And if you're STILL interested in Humbrol paints ,Humbrol No 81 is as close to yellow ochre as they get.

Tamiya paints are superb for air-brushing but not if you're using brushes. They dry to quick. especially on something the size of Victory.