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Gandale wrote:Nicely done Kobus, have to agree with Derek though, cut a small notch in that 5th plank to get a better fit around the false stern post... I think if you try to sand it down as you suggest then you may find you will end up sanding through the bamboo strip....  .. Nice work though, well done..... Regards Alan Hi Alan Thanks for the nice comments, much appreciated. Will cut a small notch in the bamboo to get it flash with the rest.  Regards Kobus
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As I started with the planking I 'struggled' with the bending of the bamboo as all the angles of my form is not perpendicular to the clamping angle the clamps tend to slide off.  I decided to build my own plank bender. I used a piece of gelotong and cut the same form out as my previous form. With two 8 x 125 mm bolts I force the two shapes together with the bamboo in the middle and there is no slipping of clamps!   Regards Kobus
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I find that the steam of a kettle softens the bamboo enough to let me shape it. I pre pin the plank, steam it and pin it in place to dry. If you do 3 rows at a time, the top and bottom plank guides the plank when glueing. "Rather try and fail than had failed to try".Sovereign of the Seas Model Space forum: Marcel's build
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Marcel wrote:I find that the steam of a kettle softens the bamboo enough to let me shape it. I pre pin the plank, steam it and pin it in place to dry. If you do 3 rows at a time, the top and bottom plank guides the plank when glueing. I steam upto six planks and then clamp them together, once dry I removed it and it stays like that. When steaming on the boat near other glued pieces there is a risk of the other glue softning and coming loose. Regards Kobus
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An update! I started planking over the weekend and done the first three planks on both sides!  Regards Kobus
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Nice work Kobus I bet it feels good to start on the planking.I like your former for bending the planks do you soak/steam them and leave them in there to dry? Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Nice work Kobus I bet it feels good to start on the planking.I like your former for bending the planks do you soak/steam them and leave them in there to dry? Kind Regards Nigel Hi Nigel Thanks for the nice comment. Yes, I steam the planks and then put it in the former to dry. Once dried I take it out and the bamboo stays in the form with a bit of relaxing. I've steamed the first six planks all at once and dried them in the former together. It worked well. Regards Kobus
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 Hi Kobus, good to see you are on the planks. It starts to take shape. It might look like nothing, but I know its a lot of work up to this stage. The waiting is the tough part when you have time to continue with the build, but has to waste on preparation.  Any plans on how to go about those twists at the rear?  I guess it would look like a brace from intensive care unit Keep them posting Marcel "Rather try and fail than had failed to try".Sovereign of the Seas Model Space forum: Marcel's build
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Hi Kobus, its coming along very nicely.... The bending and twisting of the bamboo will get easier as you find your own methods... Me, I simply used steam from the kettle, holding the bamboo over the kettle spout and bending as I went... Worked well for the bamboo but for the bending of harder woods I have placed strips in a pressure cooker, that made the strips nice a pliable when I took them out.... .. Regards Alan
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Marcel wrote: Hi Kobus, good to see you are on the planks. It starts to take shape. It might look like nothing, but I know its a lot of work up to this stage. The waiting is the tough part when you have time to continue with the build, but has to waste on preparation. Any plans on how to go about those twists at the rear? I guess it would look like a brace from intensive care unit Keep them posting Marcel Hi Marcel Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. I've seen a posting on the forum showing the twisting of the planks, will most probably start with it that way and see where it takes me, maybe to ICU! Regards Kobus
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Gandale wrote:Hi Kobus, its coming along very nicely.... The bending and twisting of the bamboo will get easier as you find your own methods... Me, I simply used steam from the kettle, holding the bamboo over the kettle spout and bending as I went... Worked well for the bamboo but for the bending of harder woods I have placed strips in a pressure cooker, that made the strips nice a pliable when I took them out.... .. Regards Alan Hi Alan Thanks for the positive comment! I'm using the wife's steamer to steam the planks and it works like a dream! Regards Kobus
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Hi Kobus.
I get the twist by clamping around a batten.
Check post no. 178 on my build.
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I have an issue with the dip at frame 26. Many builders has packed it. If you have not done it, I suggest you do it now while you are in the early stages. Look in the Hull Profile for discussion about it. In my diary is also pics to describe the dip. Marcel "Rather try and fail than had failed to try".Sovereign of the Seas Model Space forum: Marcel's build
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Marcel wrote:Thanks Alan and Nigel for the great help. I looked at the posts and agree rib 26 needs to be packed. Do I pack the complete sides of rib 26 or only partially where the dip is?  I hope Kobus also picked it up, since he is also at the same stage! Hi Marcel Thanks for the heads up!  Although I have planked the first three rows I removed it and added a 2 mm left over of the launch on rib 26 on both sides, sanded it down to the required height and replace the planking on both sides. I also did the bottom three rows tonight, upto rib 21, waiting for the first two twisted planks to dry.  Wiil fit them tomorrow night. Regards Kobus
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Its a pleasure to be of some assistance.   I also had to remove the planks to pack it. I used the tip from Karl and used hot water with a brush to softened the glue; worked like a charm. At first I thought the resin glue would be a pain in the rear. I am working currently on the stern to get a smooth natural flow of the planks. Nigel's build just did that for me.  I do not like the flatness of the Gallery. Since Karl is busy with the decor of his Gallery, I am getting a good idea what to expect from the finished look. Marcel "Rather try and fail than had failed to try".Sovereign of the Seas Model Space forum: Marcel's build
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Captain David wrote:Hi Kobus.
I get the twist by clamping around a batten.
Check post no. 178 on my build. Hi Captain David Thanks for the tip for the twisting. I used your idee and did mine last night, clamped it and then steamed it and let it dry overnight. Remove this morning and it worked like a dream! Regards Kobus
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Update! The planks from my own former or plank bender!  My first twisted planks, thanks to Captain David!  Regards Kobus
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Hi Kobus, at least now you have your technique for bending and twisting bamboo... well done... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Hi Kobus, at least now you have your technique for bending and twisting bamboo... well done... Regards Alan Hi Alan This is all due to this fantastic Forum! Thanks all for the advice! Regards Kobus
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Great work Kobus it looks like you have a nice little production line going. Kind Regards Nigel
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