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 Rank: Beginner Level 2  Groups: Registered
Joined: 18/08/2013 Posts: 12 Points: 36 Location: Durban, KZN, south africa
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Good day gents and ladies, if we have any here. After much deliberation (looking at the the other build diaries  ), i have decided that i to will start a build diary. Please understand that i have not even put together a cheap model airplane before, so i have no skills yet at all.  Yes, i have posted some of the pics below in another post, but i thought it would be better to rather officially post them in the right place before i get booted  Enjoy portside attached the following image(s):
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 Rank: Pro  Groups: Registered
Joined: 27/02/2013 Posts: 228 Points: 664 Location: Bursledon
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A good start, Duane.
We will all be looking forward to seeing more of your build.
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Rank: Pro  Groups: Registered
Joined: 23/04/2013 Posts: 287 Points: 859 Location: Hartbeespoort, NW, South Africa
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Hi Duane This is the correct place for your diary where you will get all the right advice for your build! Regards Kobus
Current Build
HMS Sovereign of the Seas - First Build
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Welcome to the Forum Duane nice start Rgd Martyn Building ?
Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa
Next Build ?
When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
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Rank: Pro Groups: Joined: 24/08/2009 Posts: 48,827 Points: -13,348
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Welcome to the forum Duane Nice work,looking forward to following your build Kind Regards Nigel
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Welcome Duane, looks like you have got off to a very nice start....  .. Will be following with interest... Regards Alan
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Rank: Pro Groups: Joined: 24/08/2009 Posts: 48,827 Points: -13,348
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Welcome Duane, indeed we do have some female members and congrats on your first medal
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Welcome Duane will be following your build looks like a great start keep the pics comming!! Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Administration      Groups: Registered, Forum Support Team, Administrators, Global Forum Support Team, Moderator, Official Builds Joined: 09/11/2012 Posts: 8,252 Points: 23,844 Location: East midlands
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WTG Duane, Look`s like a good start to me. This is my first build also, but I have started another since and the extra build would not have been possible without the help, guidance and all round assistance of the members of this excellent forum. I have even started a rebuild, of a part built model that I gave up hope on years ago. Should you have any problems with your build, then I am sure there will be someone on here that will be able to help. Keep up the good start and keep us up to date on your progress. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 18/08/2013 Posts: 12 Points: 36 Location: Durban, KZN, south africa
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Hello everyone, have not checked in for a while, works been crazy, which goes without saying that my SOTS has taken a little holiday...  i have a medal, nice! I started on the planking but sadly, even after steaming etc following the forum, most have snapped and i dont know why? I have since removed all and restarted the planking, sorry only one pic for now but my excitment exited the building along with the snapped planks. portside attached the following image(s):
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Rank: Pro Groups: Registered
Joined: 27/02/2013 Posts: 228 Points: 664 Location: Bursledon
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They have probably snapped where there is a knot, Duane.
You cannot put a bend in a plank where there is a knot.
Sort through your planks before choosing the right one for each bit of the job.
I found about 10% of mine were knot-free. Most of them have a knot towards one end.
Say you want to lay a plank that is 5cm short of a full length - choose a plank where the knot will be about 3cm from the end, so you will cut it off as waste.
Even the planks with a knot in the middle will come in useful later, for 2 short bits.
And - you will get many more planks provided than you will need, so don't worry!
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 18/08/2013 Posts: 12 Points: 36 Location: Durban, KZN, south africa
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cheers captain, appreciate the assistance.
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Hi Duane, the process I used for bending the bamboo was to gently bend under a steaming kettle, never trying to get the bend to happen too quickly... Also, when you look at a plank try bending it one way then the other, you will find it bends easier one way and this is side you should bend it on... hope that makes sense.... With this method I experienced very few breakages or splits.... Hope this helps, persevere and you will get there I'm sure... Regards Alan
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 18/08/2013 Posts: 12 Points: 36 Location: Durban, KZN, south africa
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Thanks for looking in and the advise Alan, i have not done any work since the previous posting as im working the weekend, these blasted 14hr shifts are a pain... Woke up this morning to every single planks bust, each one has snapped, im going to have to be slightly more patient when doing this... Im seriously thinking of steaming all the parts that need to be removed and filling with balsa. 
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portside wrote:Thanks for looking in and the advise Alan, i have not done any work since the previous posting as im working the weekend, these blasted 14hr shifts are a pain... Woke up this morning to every single planks bust, each one has snapped, im going to have to be slightly more patient when doing this... Im seriously thinking of steaming all the parts that need to be removed and filling with balsa. Hi Duane, as this is my first build I decided to use balsa infills for the whole of my hull and it certainly helped greatly when coming to the planking phase. Not everyone chooses this option, some decided to simply use infills for the bow and stern sections only. If you decide to go down the route of using infills then the early pages of my diary gives a detailed account of how I did it... You always have to be patient when bending planks and there are many ways to achieve it, other diaries explains these different methods... .. Again, hope this helps.. Regards Alan
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Hi Duane.
It is certainly a good idea to use balsa infills at the bow and stern where you have to shape the planks to fit. I would not waste money on infilling all the ribs because you will not need to.
Looking at your progress so far I agree with you a little more patience. If you have not bent the planks and done plenty of test fitting before you fixe them they are much more likely to snap under stress or not lie flat to the ribs and have gaps between the planks.
Have a read through this it is very comprehensive.
http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=5669
I also find the official Victory build covers technique very well also despite being a different model the method is the same.“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Beginner Level 2 Groups: Registered
Joined: 18/08/2013 Posts: 12 Points: 36 Location: Durban, KZN, south africa
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Cheers Jase, Appreciate the possitive feed back and advise, i have some reading and practising to do I knew somewhere at the back of my mind that i had bitten off more then i could chew by choosing this build to be my first ever, but i have started and i will conquer.
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Rank: Pro Groups: Registered
Joined: 27/02/2013 Posts: 228 Points: 664 Location: Bursledon
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Duane, you will get there.
This is my first ship build. It is Alan's (Gandale's) first build.
Just avoid knots where there is a bend to be made (I have managed to avoid knots entirely), then steam or soak the planks before clamping them on a former or pinning in place on the ship itself - then when dry they will have the right curve; then glue in place. I did not steam them but just left the end to be bent in a jug of water for an hour or so. As Alan says, they will want to bend easiest in one direction - follow what the wood wants to do.
Make sure you pre-drill holes for the pins as well, before you glue up, to avoid lengthwise splits.
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portside wrote:Cheers Jase, Appreciate the possitive feed back and advise, i have some reading and practising to do I knew somewhere at the back of my mind that i had bitten off more then i could chew by choosing this build to be my first ever, but i have started and i will conquer. Lots of help and support on the forum, before you know it you will be an expert “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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 Rank: Master  Groups: Registered
Joined: 30/03/2011 Posts: 1,344 Points: 4,079 Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg. RSA
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Duane, do not become despondent. The victory is my first. The secret is to take your time. The forum has a magnitude of tips and ideas that will help you along the way. I learnt one thing, there is no short cuts. Follow the instructions carefully, if you are not sure double check. I soaked, steamed and bent my planks with a converted soldering iron, offering up a plank at a time. It takes time and lots and lots of patience. it is not a race, it is meant to be enjoyed. Taking your time takes out a lot of frustration and produces great results. Have fun!! Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
Current Build:
Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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