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#1 Posted : 14 September 2013 20:38:00
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Hi All, BigGrin

Now having seen Karl`s build including THE Lantern with the comments of "Essex Bling" I would like (as an Essex Boy) to put forward this suggestion to put some serious Bling on the SotS.

Found this item on E-Bay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/it...161101072095%26_rdc%3D1[

As an Essex Boy I thought this would be "Luvvly Jubbly".

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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#2 Posted : 14 September 2013 21:42:32

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Thats it..well done.Have to admit I was talking about this very thing with the wife a few days ago...you have saved me the trouble of sourcing a supply..many thanks.One tip if you are gilding is to paint the object you are going to gild red...it makes the gold "golder" if you get what I mean.
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#3 Posted : 15 September 2013 11:33:00

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Sorted your topic del Cool
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Just a word of caution, before rushing off to buy one of these, as I did at the beginning of the SOTS.
Gilding is not an easy thing to do, to say the least, and it is virtually impossible to get a good coverage of complicated surfaces, as I discovered Crying
The Leaf will split or tear at any attempt to persuade it into corners and crevices. The only success I had, was on surfaces where it would lay naturally, that is with only very gentle curves etc.
By all means have a go, but be prepared for an epic fail (as my son would sayLOL). Or maybe I was missing somethingConfused
It was an interesting experience, but I will be using paint.LOL LOL
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Spot on Andy, its great for flat surfaces, but will drive you to distraction for use on intricate castings..
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Mmmm... I 've checked this out, seems to get some fairly negative reviews.Confused
http://www.amazon.com/Medallion...oduct-reviews/B003LR6JH2

I don't really see how it could work, I have worked with dipping solutions, these came from Johnson Matthey, were excruciatingly expensive and used Gold Pottasium CyanideScared and then required Annealing at several hundred degrees.

SorryBlushing Blushing , it's my previous life as a research scientist reasserting itself. I worked in Materials Research at the University of Hull, then for a Company that made Lasers and before taking early retirementBored Bored Huh for the Oxford Instruments Group in Semiconductor Physics.
Now I mainly shovel Sheep S**t for my sinsLOL LOL LOL LOL
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The better bet is one of the liguid leafing systems.This is basically metallic particles in a pva suspension.I have used the bronze version on cannons with great success,but I did etch prime them first and it took two coats of leaf for proper coverage.If you google liquid leaf there are lots of different ones available.
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Something else I'm going to try is the Wax Gilding,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rub-n...&hash=item53fda52be1

This gives polished Highlights which should help definition. It comes in a wide range of finishes.
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court orchard wrote:
Something else I'm going to try is the Wax Gilding,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rub-n...&hash=item53fda52be1

This gives polished Highlights which should help definition. It comes in a wide range of finishes.

Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer.
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NMBROOK wrote:
court orchard wrote:
Something else I'm going to try is the Wax Gilding,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rub-n...&hash=item53fda52be1

This gives polished Highlights which should help definition. It comes in a wide range of finishes.

Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer.
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Thanks for the tip NigelBigGrin
I'll get the sealer as well.
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court orchard wrote:
NMBROOK wrote:
court orchard wrote:
Something else I'm going to try is the Wax Gilding,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rub-n...&hash=item53fda52be1

This gives polished Highlights which should help definition. It comes in a wide range of finishes.

Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer.
Kind Regards Nigel


Thanks for the tip NigelBigGrin
I'll get the sealer as well.


Well I would if I could find itConfused Confused

Just come back from a trawl, and can't find it anywhere. Some people suggest sealer's not required, just let it harden for a few days, others do, among the most bizarre are "use hairspray" and to freshen it up "WD40".
Bored Confused Huh
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#13 Posted : 15 September 2013 19:24:59
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Hi All,BigGrin

Firstly, thanks to Mr T for sorting the multitude of previous errorsBlushing

(May have given a few a laugh or two LOL )

Secondly, have bought some of the stuff I mentioned and will give it a try.
Might work, might not, but I`ll have fun trying.BigGrin

Lastly, wish I still had contact with a bloke I used to know in the smoke, cos he guilded the top of the Monument in London which marks the start of the great fire. Crying Crying

Well hey ho, will let you all know how it works out, be it good or bad.

Glad it`s also started some good discussion. Cool

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court orchard wrote:
court orchard wrote:
NMBROOK wrote:
court orchard wrote:
Something else I'm going to try is the Wax Gilding,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rub-n...&hash=item53fda52be1

This gives polished Highlights which should help definition. It comes in a wide range of finishes.

Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer.
Kind Regards Nigel


Thanks for the tip NigelBigGrin
I'll get the sealer as well.


Well I would if I could find itConfused Confused

Just come back from a trawl, and can't find it anywhere. Some people suggest sealer's not required, just let it harden for a few days, others do, among the most bizarre are "use hairspray" and to freshen it up "WD40".
Bored Confused Huh

Deepest apologies Andy,the stuff I bought is 'goldfinger'which is the same idea as rub and buff.Been on the hunt for it as you were struggling to find the sealer.The sealer is goldfinger varnish.Both are made by a company called Daley Rowney.Will post a pic
Kind Regards Nigel
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Thanks Nigel, I might try that too. It's a fair bit more expensive than the Rub n'Buff, but that's often a good sign.
The information I could find on Rub n'Buff seemed to indicate that after several days it went very hard and was tough enough to stand wear. But, there was some mention of it changing colour as it aged and to stop this a sealer was required, but no one could agree on what to use.
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