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Thats it..well done.Have to admit I was talking about this very thing with the wife a few days ago...you have saved me the trouble of sourcing a supply..many thanks.One tip if you are gilding is to paint the object you are going to gild red...it makes the gold "golder" if you get what I mean. Rob Nolli Illigitimi Carborundum!!!Current Builds: HMS Victory, SV Thermopylae
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Sorted your topic del
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Just a word of caution, before rushing off to buy one of these, as I did at the beginning of the SOTS. Gilding is not an easy thing to do, to say the least, and it is virtually impossible to get a good coverage of complicated surfaces, as I discovered The Leaf will split or tear at any attempt to persuade it into corners and crevices. The only success I had, was on surfaces where it would lay naturally, that is with only very gentle curves etc. By all means have a go, but be prepared for an epic fail (as my son would say ). Or maybe I was missing something It was an interesting experience, but I will be using paint.
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Spot on Andy, its great for flat surfaces, but will drive you to distraction for use on intricate castings..
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This looks good, i cant see why it shouldnt work on castings as it says all metals. http://www.taylorgifts.com/item/instant_gold_dip/31287Im sure it can be sourced in the uk too. Steve
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The better bet is one of the liguid leafing systems.This is basically metallic particles in a pva suspension.I have used the bronze version on cannons with great success,but I did etch prime them first and it took two coats of leaf for proper coverage.If you google liquid leaf there are lots of different ones available. Kind Regards Nigel
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Something else I'm going to try is the Wax Gilding, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rub-n...&hash=item53fda52be1This gives polished Highlights which should help definition. It comes in a wide range of finishes.
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Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer. Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer. Kind Regards Nigel Thanks for the tip Nigel I'll get the sealer as well.
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court orchard wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer. Kind Regards Nigel Thanks for the tip Nigel I'll get the sealer as well. Well I would if I could find it Just come back from a trawl, and can't find it anywhere. Some people suggest sealer's not required, just let it harden for a few days, others do, among the most bizarre are "use hairspray" and to freshen it up "WD40".
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Hi All, Firstly, thanks to Mr T for sorting the multitude of previous errors (May have given a few a laugh or two ) Secondly, have bought some of the stuff I mentioned and will give it a try. Might work, might not, but I`ll have fun trying. Lastly, wish I still had contact with a bloke I used to know in the smoke, cos he guilded the top of the Monument in London which marks the start of the great fire. Well hey ho, will let you all know how it works out, be it good or bad. Glad it`s also started some good discussion. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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court orchard wrote:court orchard wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Hi Andy,I have this one at home,I have seen it used on a scratchbuilt Royal Louis.It looks good,however it rubs off with handling the model.You need to buy the rub'n'buff sealer as well.It comes in a little glass bottle,and as the leafing is a wax base,I doubt anything else would work as a sealer. Kind Regards Nigel Thanks for the tip Nigel I'll get the sealer as well. Well I would if I could find it Just come back from a trawl, and can't find it anywhere. Some people suggest sealer's not required, just let it harden for a few days, others do, among the most bizarre are "use hairspray" and to freshen it up "WD40". Deepest apologies Andy,the stuff I bought is 'goldfinger'which is the same idea as rub and buff.Been on the hunt for it as you were struggling to find the sealer.The sealer is goldfinger varnish.Both are made by a company called Daley Rowney.Will post a pic Kind Regards Nigel
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Pic as promised NMBROOK attached the following image(s):
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Thanks Nigel, I might try that too. It's a fair bit more expensive than the Rub n'Buff, but that's often a good sign. The information I could find on Rub n'Buff seemed to indicate that after several days it went very hard and was tough enough to stand wear. But, there was some mention of it changing colour as it aged and to stop this a sealer was required, but no one could agree on what to use.
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