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Rock Pig

#1 Posted : 20 June 2010 17:34:52

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OK, Here it is - the moment has arrived. Rock Pig's Build Diary - Hooray !! BigGrin

Before I even start, BIG Kudos to all the Pro's who are helping us Noobs by posting advice, tutorials, pdf's etc etc - I wouldn't even be attempting this if all this knowledge wasn't available!! You know who you are guys, please keep it coming - right to the end, preferably Cool

Also, I personally think both admin and Tomick are doing a fine job, and it's good that they are both reading all these posts and helping wherever they can - so thanks to both of you too!

OK, and now me - complete novice, never attempted anything like this before, hence I'm deliberately lagging behind so I can watch everyone else make a pig's ear of stuff and then supply the solution before I get there! No offence intended to anyone, that's just the way I need the forum to work otherwise this will be quite a short build diary BigGrin

- veni, vidi, soditi - I came, I saw, I gave up...

I've subscribed from ish 1 way back when, and although I haven't done much, I'm devouring all posts like a maniac until I feel brave enough to do a bit. So, following the forum recommendations, I first created a pitch for the build. Conveniently located next to where I keep the beer :-

And here's one showing how I fitted it in to my own little private domain..

And here's one of it in use, full activity :-

You should be able to pick out various forum recommendations, including :-

Musical accompaniment...it says Rock Pig, any questions?
Tool to reduce risk of Percussive Adjustment Cursing

- Strongbow in this case
Maplin's magnifying light - I read EVERYTHING...
Aliphatic Glue from Cornwall Model Shop, good stuff - I've stuck my fingers to the launch several times already, thanks people!
Johnstone's Masonry paint and floor tile, or Flatter-Outer tool for the Bulkheads
You might just pick out the Revell 1/225 Victory up a corner in top piccie, my "In-Betweenie"
Ever-Present Laptop for those ?????? moments...

So, that'll do for a start. Piccies of my build with next post - bet you can't wait, eh?

Cheers and Hi to everyone, looking forward to this BigGrin

Rock Pig

Rock Pig don't like Disco, Rock Pig don't like Dance, Rock Pig don't like Ambient, Rock Pig don't like Trance. Rock Pig don't like R&B, Rock Pig don't like Soul, Rock Pig just likes Heavy-Duty Bad-Ass ROCK'N'ROLL

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#2 Posted : 20 June 2010 17:40:49

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Looking good to go RP. Nice bike btw, Yamaha *ahem* 'Drag star' classic perchance?

(The most unfortunately monikered bike ever)

In the right colour too. (just don't let it out in the rain - rust magnet)

Look forward to seeing progress on the launch.

Schnellboots on back burner

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Mike Turpin

#3 Posted : 20 June 2010 17:42:52

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I know Victory will be BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but will we really need a trolley jack to move her around?? See I read everything as well!

Seriously, welcome to the mad house and we are all looking forward to the big build pictures from you!

Mike T

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#4 Posted : 20 June 2010 17:52:06

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Hi Cap'n S - It's a V-Star (North American import) so I'm lucky with the name...
Hi Mike - Trolley Jack for prising her out once I've wedged the masts under the top cupboards, didn't plan for that BigGrin

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#5 Posted : 20 June 2010 18:39:53

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Yo Rock Pig! BigGrin

Welcome!!

I am sooooo glag to see Rock being the build music of choice!! Cool

Nothing like Guns, or AC/DC and a Guiness to get the mood for intricate woodwork!! LOL

Tomick

#6 Posted : 20 June 2010 18:50:27

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Welcome to the forum Rock Pig!

Nice to see the love of your life sat to your left LOL

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welcome rockpig. word of advice DONT AIR GUITAR WITH GLU IN YOUR HAND not sure the cat has ever forgiven me Cool

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#8 Posted : 21 June 2010 22:56:04

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Eh-Up, RP's back with an update BigGrin

I'm a late starter, so no need to go into detail of how I built my jig, how to do a launch (or not), so it's a progress report on the launch, closely followed by a question for the experts - Mr T., this means you !(It's the bottom bit)

Thought the launch jig went together ok, until I saw it in profile - it's that wavy, I think it'll match the surface of the water at least... However, tried to sand it a bit, which of course meant breaking the ribs and sticking them back together a couple of times. Hey-Ho, press on regardless - there's always the Filler, right?

So, did a couple of planks, seemed ok, a combination of Aliphatic Glue, 'Laccy bands and a layer of skin appears to have held them on :-

Doesn't look too bad, apart from the gap between the bottom ones right at the prow; Having trouble getting my head round the required taper ... :-

Fortunately, I didn't panic as it occured to me the Keel might be my friend here - and LO! So it came to be!! Laugh

Not to the standard of some the Pro's, I know; But close enough to fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, fill & sand, etc etc etc...? What's the verdict, anyone think convert to matchwood (Percussive Adjustment) and re-order issue 6, or shall I press on (But not too hard) ?

Anyroadup, here's a proper query (OO-ER Missus!)

Can't help noticing that the bottom of bulkhead No. 15 doesn't reach the bottom of the Keel on the Big B*gger - See photo below :-

However, the top is spot-on to the deck level...See photo No. 2 below :-

Is this intentional, anyone else got the same, do I need a new piece, or what..?
Any assistance most gratefully appreciated!

So there we go for now - better stop banging on, don't want to 'Hog' anyone's valuable time (Sorry - couldn't resist 'Hamming' it up there - Wahey) BigGrin

TTFN
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#9 Posted : 21 June 2010 22:56:44

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welcome rock pig, nice pot of paint,cpt.stedders favorite brand to.keep them pigs er mean pics coming.regards karl.
that is ok better in the middle, but no damage done,the deck will sit on it nicly.

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#10 Posted : 21 June 2010 22:57:30

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PS - Forgot to say thanks for the welcome from those of similar muscal tastes...!

Thanks ! BigGrin

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#11 Posted : 21 June 2010 23:18:26

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yep, I'm another with a taste of Zeppelin and AC/DC, cant get enough, at work they listen to Magic (the pain, the horror) soon as I get its Planet Rock all night...ahhh, that's better.

Welcome BigGrin

Mike Turpin

#12 Posted : 22 June 2010 00:06:31

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Hi again RP

Looking at where you are at with the launch planks, it would have been better if you had brought the two 'bottom' planks i.e. the ones on top in the picture all the way to the bows. Also the second plank each side could have been shaped better to lie alongside the first plank. Get these right and the last planks will fit in easier when you get to them. There should be enough spare planks with issue 6 to have another go.

Have a look at Launch build. It might give you a better idea of how the planks can be shaped and fitted.

Mike T

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#13 Posted : 22 June 2010 00:21:47

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Pretty much as mike suggests. Bending the planks, one at a time, over the bow and then (carefully) trimming them with a (very) sharp scalpel or craft knife to shape would have kept things as per the build destructions.

No need to start shaping the planks until you get to the midway point, halfway-ish up the hull sides.

Nothing to be too concerned about at the moment though - just follow through and see where things take you. Dry fit as you go and if you come up against any problems, take a pic, post it and see what advice you get.

Keeping the planks butted up tight against each other as you go will save slapping filler about later.

Schnellboots on back burner

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