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Hi all I do hope someone could help me, for years I have looked for good quality brushes for painting small detail and I have tried various types even citadel one (which I though rubbish, unless it was to 2 I got as the bristles came out), but some of the most excellent modellers on. The forum could suggest a good make for me to get and if possible where from. Thanks for your help. Peter Builds in progress: HMS Victory.HMS Surprise. Completed builds: Revell London Bus 1/24. Builds to do:Sovereign of the seas, Hms Albion.
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you really are asking a very awkward question, with brushes it's more the aftercare and general looking after, and in this case you get what you pay for,I personally go for sable,don.t forget a good soapy wash after you have cleaned them. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Hi Petpole Nothing awkward about buying brushes just go to your local artists store like Hobbystore for instance and buy the best you can afford , sable are generally the best and with all brushes be they the cheap ones or expensive ones some shedding of hairs will occur. Its the cleaning of brushes that is the most important thing to get right as a badly cleaned brush will just clog up and fail quickly. I generally use liquid detergent with acrylics giving the brush a good spread so the cleaning solution fully penetrates the hairs and after a good rinse in clean water to remove the detergent. To make sure all the paint has gone i do this again and after use clean water to set the hairs back in position and then leave to dry naturally. If the brush was supplied with a plastic tube cover always retain this and store the brush in it ,doing this should let you get a good few years service from a brush . hope this helps regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Hi, For small brushes I only use Red Kolinsky Sable, nothing else comes close to their pick up and release. For sizes under 3 and down to 10/0 they are relatively cheap, typically about £3-£4, but will last for years if cared for. Currently my favourite supplier is Creative Models, because I like the large triangular handles. http://www.creativemodels.co.uk....html?page=2&sort=2a
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A tip that I found works well is after cleaning,work a little hair conditioner into the bristles and then rinse thoroughly.This keeps the bristles as soft as when they were new and I have actually had brushes improve with the use of this process. Kind Regards Nigel
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court orchard wrote:Hi, For small brushes I only use Red Kolinsky Sable, nothing else comes close to their pick up and release. For sizes under 3 and down to 10/0 they are relatively cheap, typically about £3-£4, but will last for years if cared for. Currently my favourite supplier is Creative Models, because I like the large triangular handles. http://www.creativemodels.co.uk....html?page=2&sort=2a I agree with you on the triangular handels they are more comfertable and controlerble. “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Thanks for all the suggestions, I knew it was going to be a hard subject to answer. As for cleaning my brushes, as I only use acrylics now days I generally wash them out in clean running cold water, dry them then use a shaving foam dish (the ones you get from wilkos ) with a little water just to get the softness back then another quick rinse in warm water and then wrap them in parchment paper with an elastic band tied round and left to dry on its own accord and also it keeps the shape better. I know it's a long process but it does work. Peter Builds in progress: HMS Victory.HMS Surprise. Completed builds: Revell London Bus 1/24. Builds to do:Sovereign of the seas, Hms Albion.
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Hi, I always use Winsor & Newton Series 7 Miniature for fine detail painting. They are a little pricey but hold their point well & do last. I clean them in the appropriate thinner for the paint I am using & then wash them in water after massaging in a little 'Brush cleaner & Preserver' http://www.ebay.co.uk/it...amp;hash=item53fd49c63e
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Hope that helps. Wilfy
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You can use hair conditioner too on the bristles.. Keeps them nice and soft.. Remember to rinse through though Spencer
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court orchard wrote:Hi, For small brushes I only use Red Kolinsky Sable, nothing else comes close to their pick up and release. For sizes under 3 and down to 10/0 they are relatively cheap, typically about £3-£4, but will last for years if cared for. Currently my favourite supplier is Creative Models, because I like the large triangular handles. http://www.creativemodels.co.uk....html?page=2&sort=2a Andy, are these the actual brushes you ordered or do you mean any brand of Kolinsky? Im just wondering as the ones in the link are creative models own brand and have in the past wondered how good they were at that price. I have been using Dahler Rowney Aquafines for a while as they are the only ones in my local shop but have had my eye on the set of small brushes at the link you posted. Steve
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stevie_o wrote:court orchard wrote:Hi, For small brushes I only use Red Kolinsky Sable, nothing else comes close to their pick up and release. For sizes under 3 and down to 10/0 they are relatively cheap, typically about £3-£4, but will last for years if cared for. Currently my favourite supplier is Creative Models, because I like the large triangular handles. http://www.creativemodels.co.uk....html?page=2&sort=2a Andy, are these the actual brushes you ordered or do you mean any brand of Kolinsky? Im just wondering as the ones in the link are creative models own brand and have in the past wondered how good they were at that price. I have been using Dahler Rowney Aquafines for a while as they are the only ones in my local shop but have had my eye on the set of small brushes at the link you posted. Steve Hi Steve, Any brand which uses Kolinsky Sable are OK. I ordered the Creative Model ones for my most recent ones, because they go down to very small sizes e.g. 10/0 and they have the chunky triangular handles, which are easier to hold. We used Kolinsky Brushes at work as they are considered the finest (in both senses). For anyone who doesn't know the Kolinsky is a type of weasel (not a sable) that lives in siberia and grows particularly fine fur, because of the very cold temperatures. Only the hair from the tail is considered good enough and real aficionados say that only the male tail will do. Larger watercolour brushes can run into the hundreds of pounds!
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Thanks Andy just placed an order for a set of 4 not to expensive either, only £10.95 just have to wait for slow mail to come now. Just wished they would hurry up with transporter tech so we get stuff within the hour. Peter Builds in progress: HMS Victory.HMS Surprise. Completed builds: Revell London Bus 1/24. Builds to do:Sovereign of the seas, Hms Albion.
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jase wrote:court orchard wrote:Hi, For small brushes I only use Red Kolinsky Sable, nothing else comes close to their pick up and release. For sizes under 3 and down to 10/0 they are relatively cheap, typically about £3-£4, but will last for years if cared for. Currently my favourite supplier is Creative Models, because I like the large triangular handles. http://www.creativemodels.co.uk....html?page=2&sort=2a I agree with you on the triangular handels they are more comfertable and controlerble. Me too triangular handels are more comfertable.
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