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Hi Does anyone out there have a spare chainwale support bracket - if you have fitted your chainwales and find you have a spare I would love it if you could post it my way, P+P covered of course. They came with issues 72 and 82 (12 in each one) and 24 of them are required all together but I only have 23  They are the brass angled brackets with a nail hole in each end (painted black in the pic below). Please PM me if you can help, I don't really want to call customer services yet as I am still waiting for a replacement issue 85! 
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Hi Steve,  I`m only up to part 23 in my build, but I have all parts so I checked for you to see if I can help. OMG I`ve only got 18. Can anyone confirm how many of these brackets are required as it don`t tell you how many are meant to be supplied. Sorry Steve, Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Steve,  Following up on the above, when we discussed the fitting of the wales the other day and I posted a link to the expanded pictures, well I just revisited that link and it only shows 9 brackets on one side, so my ageing brain says we only need 18 for the two sides. Could this be correct or are there more brackets supplied in future issues for other wales? Happy Building, from a now confused old fool.  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Derek, There are actually 12 per side - 4 on the main, 3 on the fore and 3 on the mizzen plus there are 2 small separate chainwales with one bracket each, these are on the main and mizzen only. Im sure there wont be any more supplied as by the end of this issue (87) all the chainwales are to be fitted to the hull. A couple of spares would be handy on this sort of thing just in case one or two go missing  Cheers Steve
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stevie_o wrote:Hi Derek, There are actually 12 per side - 4 on the main, 3 on the fore and 3 on the mizzen plus there are 2 small separate chainwales with one bracket each, these are on the main and mizzen only. Im sure there wont be any more supplied as by the end of this issue (87) all the chainwales are to be fitted to the hull. A couple of spares would be handy on this sort of thing just in case one or two go missing Cheers Steve Hi Steve, Oh Pooh I got to source 6 of the little blighters then,or coddle something up with a bit of brass. We`ll see,  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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You should get 10 in issue 72 and 8 in issues 82. so 18 in total. Thats from checking the Mag I haven't counted parts. I don't see any in issues after 82. If you don't want to wait for replacements you could make some from brass tube. just crimp the ends in a vice and drill a hole, but I would recommend doing them all that way or not at all.
Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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jase wrote:You should get 10 in issue 72 and 8 in issues 82. so 18 in total. Thats from checking the Mag I haven't counted parts. I don't see any in issues after 82. If you don't want to wait for replacements you could make some from brass tube. just crimp the ends in a vice and drill a hole, but I would recommend doing them all that way or not at all.
Jase Hi Jase,  Thanks for that info. Now I got the 18 you stated, but steve is coming up with a required total of 24. Not sure now where the confusion is, as to how many are actually required. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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delboy271155 wrote:jase wrote:You should get 10 in issue 72 and 8 in issues 82. so 18 in total. Thats from checking the Mag I haven't counted parts. I don't see any in issues after 82. If you don't want to wait for replacements you could make some from brass tube. just crimp the ends in a vice and drill a hole, but I would recommend doing them all that way or not at all.
Jase Hi Jase, Thanks for that info. Now I got the 18 you stated, but steve is coming up with a required total of 24. Not sure now where the confusion is, as to how many are actually required. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) I have already fitted 23 to the chainwales, I'm 1 short. Here is a breakdown - fore mast - 3 per side mainmast - 4 per side plus 1 per side for the "mini" chainwale. mizzen - 3 per side plus 1 per side for the "mini" chainwale. Total 24 Your trying to confuse me now Steve
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delboy271155 wrote:jase wrote:You should get 10 in issue 72 and 8 in issues 82. so 18 in total. Thats from checking the Mag I haven't counted parts. I don't see any in issues after 82. If you don't want to wait for replacements you could make some from brass tube. just crimp the ends in a vice and drill a hole, but I would recommend doing them all that way or not at all.
Jase Hi Jase, Thanks for that info. Now I got the 18 you stated, but steve is coming up with a required total of 24. Not sure now where the confusion is, as to how many are actually required. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Like I said I only did a quick count in the mags, like we all could. Karl has just let me know there are 24 so 24 it is.“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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jase wrote:delboy271155 wrote:jase wrote:You should get 10 in issue 72 and 8 in issues 82. so 18 in total. Thats from checking the Mag I haven't counted parts. I don't see any in issues after 82. If you don't want to wait for replacements you could make some from brass tube. just crimp the ends in a vice and drill a hole, but I would recommend doing them all that way or not at all.
Jase Hi Jase, Thanks for that info. Now I got the 18 you stated, but steve is coming up with a required total of 24. Not sure now where the confusion is, as to how many are actually required. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Like I said I only did a quick count in the mags, like we all could. Karl has just let me know there are 24 so 24 it is. Hi Jase, Thanks for your assistance, I did the check as you so rightly say and I`ve got the 18 parts you stated. Appreciate the time you and Karl have taken and will now add a new skill to my ever increasing list. Brass bashing  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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No Problem mate, give me a shout if you need any support on the 'brass bashing' jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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I have finally completed the Victory and can confirm (After a visual check) you require 24 supports They where provided as follows Issue 72 10 Issue 75 6 Issue 82 8 Total 24 Current Build:-
[color=blue]Stash Avro Lancaster (Full Kit)plus some extra issues I picked up at a good price
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GilShapley wrote:I have finally completed the Victory and can confirm (After a visual check) you require 24 supports They where provided as follows Issue 72 10 Issue 75 6 Issue 82 8 Total 24 Hi Gil, Many thanks for taking the time to clear that one up. That`s saved me the job of brass bashing Unfortunately it don`t solve poor Steve`s problem of missing one Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Nope, had a good search last night and not turned up so I think I was short in one of the mags, but if you only recieve 24 then I doubt anyone will have a spare one. Thanks everyone though! Regards Steve
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Well you could always order up a copy of one of the Mags in which the original supports where included but as we all know the delivery times can be protracted The other option as already stated is to make your own. try this Take a length of Round Brass rod ( I had some 1/16" in the garage) Cut a length using one of the original supports as a guide. I would cut it longer than required. Flatten the ends, I used my lump hammer as an anvil and an ordinary hammer to beat the c*** out of the brass rod. Once the ends are flat you can shape them using a file or a dremmil if you have one, drill the holes for the pins. Jobs a good one It took me about 5 mins to produce one Piccy attached. Note sure about the size as I do not have one to use as a guide Best of luck GilShapley attached the following image(s): Current Build:-
[color=blue]Stash Avro Lancaster (Full Kit)plus some extra issues I picked up at a good price
[color=blue]Built:- Norman Catapult by Mantua,Roman Catapult by Mantua,HMS Victory,HMS Victory XSection,Focker DB1,Bismark,English Carronade Titanic Lifeboat,American Civil War Gatling,Hummer,Sopwith Camel F1,Occre Jupiter ,OcCre Wagon, Latina Arab Dhow, Eaglemass Orrery OcCre Rogers 119 [color=red][color=red]RB7,OcCre Missippi River Boat, Model Airways Fokker DR1
OcCre London L>C>C 106 Ugears Scrambler, Ugears Hexapod Explorer UGears Off-Road Vehicle
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Thanks Gil, I think I will have to have a go at that, seeing as I only need to make 1 anyway. Steve
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All done I used brass wire / rod and found that with flat large pliers you can crush the ends a bit at a time. The last pic shows the new piece in place (foreground) the rear one is an original for comparison. Thanks all for your support. Steve stevie_o attached the following image(s):
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WTG Steve, That`s looking good. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Spot on J “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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