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karl1113
#1 Posted : 01 April 2014 18:36:39

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welcome to the build,I hope to start very soon,and will be doing the build in a tutorial format, in case any of our friends across the pond(u.s.a.) would like to try it,as it is an american kit.
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#2 Posted : 01 April 2014 19:07:12

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I am looking forwards to this one Karl, I have often wondered how good these kits are.

Hope the build goes well,

Dave
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#3 Posted : 01 April 2014 20:03:15

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BigGrin looking forward to this one KarlCool
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#4 Posted : 02 April 2014 09:32:49

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Hi Karl
is this the Model airways kit?
will be interesting as ive just managed to acquire one of the Wright flyer!
just got to wait a few weeks for it to ship over

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Dan
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hi dan, it will be interesting to see another "flyer" on the forum,any chance of putting up a build diary?.
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Hi Karl
im sure a build diary would be possible, want to finish up the Zero and a couple of small projects first!
still waiting upon delivery from the usa too

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#8 Posted : 09 April 2014 09:25:15

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well,here we are,I have now made a start, but first a description of the contents.the wing ribs and various other small parts are very nicely laser cut, with barely any waste to sand off,and the first job is to prepare the work area, the plan stretched out and pinned down and away we go.
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#9 Posted : 09 April 2014 09:33:42

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I have to say that the plans and instructions are both precise and clear,and the laser cutting very accurate,I am using superglue gel, as I had trouble trying to get balsa cement. so I tested the glue on some scrap and worked very well, the superglue gel dried much quicker on balsa,so be careful if you use it.it is going together nicely.
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Now that takes me back to my early building years. Thanks for sharing and watching with interest Cool
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#11 Posted : 09 April 2014 11:08:39

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Certainly takes me well back too...Nice one Karl..The materials still look very delicate...I will be eagerly following your progress mate!!
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#12 Posted : 09 April 2014 13:25:52

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now this is a throwback to past times with a twist of modern laser cutting which takes a lot of the swearing out.
but it is very fragile,the wing rib can break by just placing them over the wing spars.with care and some repairing all was fitted in one piece or nearly all. and can see breakages on the horizon. surprisingly enough,this is not for flight only for display. feel free to comment,and lets hear some stories of past builds and experiences.
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#13 Posted : 09 April 2014 14:21:46

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I am going to enjoy this. I have never built one of these but I recal my Dad did. we took it to the school feild wound up the elastic band and flew it into a treeBlink I think my Dad binned it the same dayLOL LOL LOL

good luck with it matey

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#14 Posted : 09 April 2014 15:41:48

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Lovely start Karl,

Having built wings with laser cut ribs I have to agree that it makes the build so much more enjoyable, your 100% right with all the pleasure and none of the pain.

Dave
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BigGrin Hi Karl
A very nice start to what looks like to be quite flimsy until the covering goes on, great stuff
Kiel-craft, Guillows rubber, jetex and free flight diesels from Davis Charlton , balsa cement had its own aroma like dope,tissue and diesel fuel and all had a certain addiction and yh most crashed pretty quickly or just didn't fly at all,well into the ground anyways
I always remember a jetex model Vampire consuming itself on its 1st launch as the heat from the motor set the dope, tissue covering and balsa aflame, I was horified but at the same time rolling about with laughter as it disappeared under its own vialition.
Ah heady days
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#16 Posted : 09 April 2014 18:29:20

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thank you all gentlemen for the comments and stories,keep 'em coming. er jase I don't recall the flyer being available from keil kraft,maybe another manufacturer. totally agree 'bout jet-x I reckon they were made to blow up models so you had to buy another. and they are still available, the solid fuel pellets were lethal.
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Looks good Karl, I built a Hawker Hart as a balsa display kit once, but that was one where you had the pieces printed on the balsa and had to cut out all the spar notches tooMad not fun at all.
Watching this one all the way.
Steve
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Hi Karl,BigGrin

OMG, I remember building Keil Kraft kits over a lot of hours and smashing them in minutes Crying

Hey Ho, we all have to start and learn somewhere, but it was still a lot of fun.

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#19 Posted : 09 April 2014 20:56:18

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Hi Karl

Hope all is well with you.

Brilliant that you have picked something like this as it brings back so many memories for me.

I remember many years back (must have been about 8 at the time) sitting with my dad building a band powered spitfire. In them days you had to cut out each piece including the delicate little squares that the stringers were glued into.

I seem to remember in those days your craft knife was that little orange thing that if you applied too much pressure to used to break. And it usually did as you only ever had the 2 blades it came with and with these going blunt a bit of extra brute force was the only way of getting it to cut.

Anyhow we pressed on to having the body and wings made but not fixed together when one day I shoved it in my school bag to show off at school. Needless to say when I got there the model was in more than 2 pieces.

Cannot remember my dad ever getting angry about it but guess he was disappointed I had done something like this.

So in the end we never got to use the tissue glue from humbrol nor that wonderful dope that would have you paint it on, let it dry then spray with water I seem to remember to shrink it.

Things have moved on over the years but I do always remember the warning that dope shrinking can warp parts.

Sure your on top of all that.

As ever enjoying your build and always impressed by your massive dedication to these builds.

Kind regards

Tony
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thank you all for the stories and comments, nice to hear them all having enjoyed their early days of building.
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