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I am sure I am not alone in thinking the barrels supplied in the kit are a bit lack luster! I decided to add a little detail!! 1. I started by sanding the barrel, not totally smooth but smoother leaving the grooves a lot shallower. 2. next I milled out the two ends to create a lip around the edge  3. Then I marked out the individual planks of the barrel with a pencil. once done I scribed over the pencil lines with a sharp blade 4. I gave the barrel a coat of thinned Humbrol light earth and left to dry 5. Once dry I began to ad the steel bands. i used strips of photo-etch, securing the end onto the barrel with supper glue than gradually fixing the band around the barrel (repeat 4 times!!)ensuring all the joints are at the same point on the barrel as these will be faced down once on the skids.   6. Once done I gave the whole barrel a was of thinned raw umber. this darkens the base colour and settles into the scribed lines adding definition.    “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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I think that's just ridiculously brilliant, perfect, simple as that, well done that man, I'll bung my barrels in the post in the morning to ya! 
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Very nice Jase..let's face it...now they, look like barrels...er...where's the bung????  Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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that photo showed a empty barrel on board ships when a barrel was empty the metal rings were knock off the barrel was flatten to conserve space the were known as the first flat pack ,rings were never pined to the barrel
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simple as that took nearly 2 and a half hours  as for the bung i thought about a spot of green stuff but could not be bothered guess im getting lazy in my old age “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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good stuff jase well impressed cheers benny
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Spot on Jason. I'm well impressed/jealous Jimmy L.
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Very well done mate. I'll 'attempt' that, if ya dont mind.  i dont know what weapons will be used in ww3 but ww4 will be sticks and stones.
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jase wrote:i used strips of photo-etch Hi Jase, Your improvements look very impressive.  Could you be so kind and explain this a little more. I have no idea what this material is, I just entered the model-ship world. Regards, Mr.Quist My build diary hereCurrent Build:HMS Victory
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Photo etch is a thin metal usually brass. Photo Etch is comes as a sheet of parts used to up grade or add tiny detail to model kits usually plastic kits which is my background. the strips i have used are bits of scrap from a Panther tank. if you don't have photo etch you could buy thin plastic sheet and cut strips off or use the tape method described in the magazine, my only concern with the tape is that the adhesive may fail over the years and come undone? “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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You can also use some 160 g/m2 stiff card, paint it with dull or matt black paint and then cut strips. Gives a good metal band effect.
Mike T
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Your barrels are superb, my problem is are they really 5ft tall, mabee mike t knows
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willz wrote:Your barrels are superb, my problem is are they really 5ft tall, mabee mike t knows Hi Willz Strangely enough, the only size information I can find on the web refers to the capacity of barrels in gallons. When I humped beer around in a pub we had firkins which hold 9 gallons i.e. 72 pints. The largest barrel size is the Tun which holds 216 gallons. Assuming a firkin is about 20" long, (Just a guess based on memory, could be slightly more) in order to increase a volume by 24 times each linear dimension needs to be increased by a factor of approx 2.9, therefore the length of the Tun would be about 58" and therefore as it happens about 5'! So to be strictly correct, the barrels are not barrels but Tuns and would hold 216 gallons. Normally they wouldn't be seen other than in the hold where they were laid on top of the shingle ballast which in turn was laid over iron or lead bars. Raising them from the hold to re-fill was a major exercise. BTW I think your Tuns are tons better than the original finish! Mike T
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Hi Mike, perhaps you might be able to shed some light on this one about barrels (old barrels) I remember seeing somewhere where the iron hoops were replaced by what looked like willow bands?? I would like your input on this one mate, thanks...  Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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jonny7england wrote:Hi Mike, perhaps you might be able to shed some light on this one about barrels (old barrels) I remember seeing somewhere where the iron hoops were replaced by what looked like willow bands?? I would like your input on this one mate, thanks... I cannot find a direct reference to willow bands but seem to recollect what you are thinking about. It may be the difference between 'tight coopering' and 'slack coopering'. Tight coopering is making barrels to hold liquids such as beer, water etc and used the iron bands to pull the staves really tight by heating them (the bands) and allowing them to contract round the staves. Slack coopers made barrels for storing solid goods such as flour, cheeses, dried peas etc. Perhaps where a supply of iron was limited, wooden bands probably made of willow, because of its flexibility, would have been used instead? All this is just conjecture, any information from a cooper would be welcome!! Mike T
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Hi all, I think Mike may be correct with the willow bands because of the possibility of sparks in the hold which also stored gunpowder. If I recall correctly copper nails would also have been used. Kick my backside if I'm wrong Mike.
Also I found the 1mm tape on Ebay for £1.90 + £1 P&P.
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I'm digging your barrels. Mine will have to follow in their footsteps. Part time modeller, full time biker
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Belle Poule (plastic)
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