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michu
#1 Posted : 03 March 2015 00:34:34

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I hope this forum can stand another Sovereign of the Seas build... ;-)

I started with issues 1-3, and the first thing to do was to fit the forward bulkhead and the bow formers.



Next I glued and attached rib frames. For frame 5 I found it that reversing the 5a and 5b sides gave me a bit better fit. For all other frames it was perfect the normal way around. The easiest way for me to glue the side parts was to put an extra amount of glue on the main part of the frame, then insert the side part of the frame from the bottom, while laying the whole assembly flat. This way the excess glue was pushed to the top, where it could be easily wiped away.



After adding some more ribs and mid section false keel, it was time to put it all into a keel jig. I made it from a sturdy aluminium profile and some random screws and scraps of metal. It seems to be working really well.











Next step was to file the burrs on the anchor (sorry, forgot to take a photo) and start preparing the anchor stock. I have glued the whole thing (all three layers) first, and then used a thin round file to enlarge the gap, working on both ends, until the anchor shank fit perfectly. This way I managed to achieve a very tight fit that can hold well even without a glue, and I will be able to shape and sand it at once instead of in two parts.



And that's it for my first evening with this beautiful model. I still need to finish the anchor stock, pain and fit the anchor, and make the cannons - but all that is waiting until I get some primers and paint.

I have one question to others who build ships - what I should prime the wood with? For example, with cannon carriages the manual says to prime the wood then paint. But on the photos, the painted carriage still shows the wood structure underneath the paint - so has it been primed at all? Any recommended products?
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#2 Posted : 03 March 2015 00:42:42

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The more the merrier I say, I especially like it when they are all staggered in there progress Cool

This, as you are no doubt more than aware, builds into a stunning model, I'm lookng forward to following your approach to this
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#3 Posted : 03 March 2015 07:58:24

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Thanks Dave, I received issues 4 and 5 yesterday so there will be an update shortly :-)
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#4 Posted : 03 March 2015 19:37:15

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Hi Michu, it really is great to see another SOTS build get underway and I for one will be following your progress to see how she turns out...Cool Cool .. Think you are off to a great start, look forward to seeing more of your build...Cool Cool

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#5 Posted : 05 March 2015 15:16:22

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G'day Michu. Great start to your build and I am looking forward to see your progress.

As for your question regarding the wood primer for the carriages (as well as other areas of wood that requires painting). I use an all purpose acrylic wood sealer that is available from craft stores (the sealer I used is available from Folk Art paints suppliers). I have only used acrylic paints so my suggestion is based on this.

The sealer will soak into the unpainted wood like a sponge on the first application. Once fully dry a light sand with fine grade sandpaper to remove the resultant furry wood particles which will then provide you with a sound foundation for any subsequent layers of paint. Depending on the type of wood and how porous it is, a second light coat of sealer may be required but that is all. Otherwise you will begin to take away from the wood texture once painted.

As the sealer is clear in colour it will not interfere with the hue of any coloured paints that are applied thereafter.

Try a test piece from scrap wood to see the difference in applying paint to wood that has & has not a coat of sealer. As well as experiment with different coats of sealer and paint to achieve the result that you require.

Hope this helps.

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#6 Posted : 28 March 2015 21:04:14

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Welcome to the forum Michu will be nice to follow another build hope all goes well for you,roby
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#7 Posted : 28 March 2015 22:27:47

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Michu

Great to see your build taking shape.

That keel jig you have yourself there is something very different and looks to me like it does a really good job. Never seen any metal extrusion like this before - very unique.

Happy Modelling

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#8 Posted : 29 March 2015 15:42:49

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BigGrin Looking forward to seeing your build michu ThumpUp

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#9 Posted : 29 March 2015 19:33:54
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Hi Michu, BigGrin

Good steady start. Cool

Keep up the good work.

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#10 Posted : 01 June 2015 00:17:34

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It's been some time... After an awfully busy first few months of the year, I'm finally done with all my extra responsibilities besides work and finally can spend some more time building, taking pictures, posting build logs. This was probably the first weekend since a very long time ago when I was able to spend more than an hour or two on my hobby...

Anyway, this is how my SOTS is progressing. More or less OK, besides the fact one of my cats have eaten some ends of the ribs... but I'll deal with that when I have to work in that area. I have one more pressing concern. Can anybody tell me if the decks should be slightly slopping up towards the stern? If not, I'm probably in trouble with the build and it will be very hard to fix at this point. I only noticed the problem when gluing in the second deck, somehow it slipped my attention when I was working on the first during some rushed time found between other activities... The problem (or not a problem?) will be visible on some of the pictures below.

I started with gluing in the side stringers. While the glue was bonding, I took care of the deck extension and mounting the gallery framework.









Then I started gluing the second deck. This proved to be quite difficult - had to quickly make some makeshift temporary supports to keep everything level and to keep all the surfaces that are supposed to be glued, together. I think the support beams underneath 2nd deck could benefit from some additional support columns in the middle - I will definitely consider it when adding further decks. I only managed to add one as the remaining part of the deck was already covered.





And this mess of a picture shows the makeshift supports I was using to make sure the deck bonds well to the support beams, and also the issue I've mentioned at the start of this post - how the deck slopes up towards the last rib. Is this how it is supposed to be, or did I glue that rib too high? But on the other hand, the gallery framework sits nice and tight - and the levels match here. So, would appreciate some advice.

Or maybe the slope was supposed to be here, but for some reason the rib that the ruler is clamped to is too low, making the bend too prominent? That I can fix by shimming the upper deck a bit...



This is how it all looks with clamps removed and cleaned up a bit:





I also had some time to work on the launch - this is the partially done result. There is a bit too much bend around the first rib - but I think I'll be able to fix that when sanding.



Thanks for reading, will appreciate comments. :)

happy building
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#11 Posted : 01 June 2015 00:21:29

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You've made great progress Michu. I can't answer your question about the deck but sure someone will very soon.
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#12 Posted : 01 June 2015 10:24:36

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Thanks Chris... It's the first ship I'm building so obviously there is a lot of questions and a lot to learn...
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#13 Posted : 01 June 2015 10:42:27

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Great progress Michu, nice to see your build moving along. There is a slope to the decks, you will see the decks sit slightly higher at the bow, slope down to the mid-deck section and rise again towards the stern. From what I can see of your deck placement everything looks fine. These pics from my build shows how it should be..

http://forum.model-space...sts&t=5013&p=12

Hope this helps. Keep the pics coming.... Cool Cool

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Hi Michu, BigGrin

Good to hear you`re getting more hobby time.Cool

The extra time shows in the results, that look spot on to me.

WTG

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#15 Posted : 01 June 2015 12:06:18

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Thanks guys, I really appreciate your comments. Happy for the deck slope being an expected feature not a mishap:)
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BigGrin Looking greatCool
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#17 Posted : 14 June 2015 20:49:11

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Had a chance to spend a bit more time - this time I worked on the launch and some other small details.

Planked:







And painted (needs a bit of sanding and one more layer after that, I think)





I finally finished both the anchors, the large one, and the tiny one:





Also, the oars:



And this is a very good glue. Lots of glue, which is good, as I don't want any other and this will last me for ages:



Happy modelling :)
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BigGrin Looks great and nicely done, the launch is spot on tooCool
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Great work Michu. Looks very nice. BigGrin
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