HI Folks
Having run into difficulties with my SMS Schleswig....area round props one side higher than the other etc
Tried rectifying but made a pigs ear out of it.
Quite disappointed as the rest of it I was happy with but...

Hey ho it kept me occupied during lockdown and I hopefully gained experience so nothing lost

Decided to try and find proper plans for it and start again but came across SMS Scharnhorst (not the WW2 one)

I got the plans in digital format and got them printed by an online print company.
Upload files to their site, choose how many you want, type of paper etc and I received them 2 days later.

I cut out the body plan and took lots of photocopies

As this ship has a panzer deck and battery deck on the hull, the lines are a bit confusing for me to follow as some of the frame lines do not just run from keel to quarter deck and upper deck.

I outlined the lines I thought needed to cut, with a marker pen, glued them to 1.5mm card and cut them out.

I have cut where the gun decks are, rather than cover the hull and then cut them out like the gunport on Vic etc once planked

I now have a set of 1/2 templates, next thing is to make full templates for each frame.

Not sure I have done this stage correctly but it should become clearer as I progress and I can always redo the frame.

If anyone wants to play along with me as it would be interesting to see how others interpret the drawings to see if I am on the right track they can PM me and I can give them a copy of the files
Thanks for lookin'

Hi Budgie!

Don't worry its not you!
Admin has put up a notice about some problems that the IT are trying to fix, at the moment no one can post photos!

Robin.

Mornin'

How much to reduce the frame by to compensate for the planking was decided by the minimum width of my compass used to draw round the frame. 3mm thats double planking with 1500micro card a bit off for sanding and a layer of craft card.
Sounds like a plan

I was thinking about ply or MDF but it will be too thick for the bottom of the frames at the pointy end so will lose the shape.

As my last attempt at trying to build a hull out of card ended up being very solid and surprisingly heavy (just misshaped at prop area but can be used as fuel for the log fire ) thats the way I will go.

I am using 2cm high card for the keel between fore and aft

I have not cut out the shape of the bow and stern bottoms as I will feel more confident that those parts are definitely touching the straight line on the build board.
Cheers
ps thats Strategic Command WW1 on the pc, can play with model while waiting for the AI to make up its mind

Thanks for lookin' in Alan

Progress is a lot slower than my last attempt (so it should take longer for me to ******* it up ) as I have been taken off furlough for the past 3 weeks

I was making the templates as per guidance from what I found on the web

Body plan only gives 1/2 a frame
Make template for the 1/2 frames
Place on card draw round outline of the 1/2 frame flip it over and draw round frame

As there are body plan lines on one side only ,flipping it over on to the reverse side is blank

Is it lined up properly? Looks OK (don't get called Mr Magoo for nothing u know )

Not even trusting my self to draw a straight line at the moment let alone curves and diagonals had to rethink this

Those frames will determine the shape of the hull so I need to feel confident that I have done this as accurate as I can

Going to redo the templates by printing out as normal but at 97% to allow for thickness off planking then print off choosing mirror image
This will allow me to join the 2 1/2s up more accurately with reference lines on both sides

Sounds like a plan

Will get to a copier tomorrow and see how it goes
Thanks for lookin'

Morning' Robin
I buy the card via Amazon
Search for A3 mountboard
It is strawboard with a smooth white surface on both sides there are various thicknesses but I opt for 1500micro (1.5mm) thick
With the white surface on both sides you only have the strawboard exposed at the edges which may require sealing.

Yep here we go again bleep it up and instead of rectifying move on to new subject.

I was going to buy the plans for the SMS Schleswig Holstien but my eye caught this one
(The plans are from a company that makes the fibreglass hulls of these models)
Thanks for lookin'

I enjoyed the Medieval War version but prefer the Strategic Command series (newer versions tho as the older versions the graphics are dated) even over PanzerKorp2.

This is looking to be complex yet a lot of fun and looking good....steady as she goes.....

Regards

Alan

Evening Folks
Had a slack day today so made the decision and stuck all the card templates to the mount board

Pic shows some of them

The yellow highlighter shows where I have to cut out the shape of the frames

Some of them are not completed all the way round as I am not yet clear as to which way to follow the lines above the quarter deck .
Depend if I plank the hull all the way up then cut out the "gun ports"

Will decide later when it hopefully becomes clearer on a dry fit of the frames

The orange line is where I will half the template with a false deck in-between
Thanks for lookin'

Morning Tony
Thanks for looking

Yes that’s the frames lying on top of each other

It does look complicated with all those lines and all the same colour

This is how I understand it

The Original body plan only shows half the frame

The horizontal base line along the bottom of the grid is your reference point for taking measurements

There are vertical grid lines numbered 5 to 0 to 5 and where the frame lines touches those lines you can measure with a ruler or divider and mark the spot on the opposite side of the grid.
Join the dots with french curves and you then have a full frame

The horizontal lines are the waterlines and deck lines the distance between each one can be different
Again you can take measurements from where the frame touches those lines by measuring to a vertical line

You could also just fold the paper in half and cut out the half frame open the paper up and you have a full frame

I feel that using the mirror image option is more accurate

That way I can blame the photocopier rather than my ability

I've probably made my interpretation of the body plan more confusing but I have lots of spare copies I can highlight the lines etc to make it clearer
Need to go to work just now so can do it later if anyone is interested

Interesting build Budgie, especially when made from card! Will be following this.

Regards,
Phil W.

Hi Folks
Finally got my finger out after a lot of humming and hawing

copied sheer plan and used a fine mist of carpet spray to stick to the 1.5mm mountboard

I have left some superstructure outlines on at the moment thinking it will be easier to remove rather than add if required for moving forward