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Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Monza , 1/8, Pocher Options
Ruda
#1 Posted : 20 May 2020 18:10:06

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I am starting a topic with the construction of the Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Monza in 1/8 scale from the Pocher company.
My kit dates from 1976 and I got my hands on an originally sealed one.
I will make a lot of adjustments to the model and I will also use a few accessories from my friend from the USA, the owner of Model Motorcars.
The construction of this model is very demanding, so do not expect any quick construction, but a comfortable, long-term construction.
Today you have the opportunity to see what the kit contains and how spartan the instructions and puzzles in it.









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#2 Posted : 20 May 2020 18:15:14

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Yesterday and today I was preparing new leaf feathers for Alfička.
It was a great test of patience, but the result was really worth the effort.
The leaf springs are in a one-piece kit and are incomparable compared to the new ones.
Screws with a diameter of 0.6 mm and 1 mm, including the necessary nuts, were used to assemble the pens.
Assembling four leaf pens took me about five hours from my life.






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#3 Posted : 20 May 2020 18:20:06

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I added a suspension system to the leaf springs.
I adjusted the side parts of the frame, added small handles and sprayed everything with a surfacer.
With this kit, a surfacer is a must, the parts are studded with ejectors, dividing planes and visible traces of pulling the parts out of the molds.
Each plastic part contained in this kit goes through the grinding, polishing and spraying of the surfacer.
It's not just about this kit, but it's about all the old Pocher kits, and if you decide to build such a kit, you have to reckon with that.
Forget about building new, beautiful kits, this is the right masochism in model making and going back in time by about fifty years.






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#4 Posted : 20 May 2020 18:25:24

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I worked on the front of Alfa.
The kit has a poorly designed mounting of the front friction dampers and it is necessary to modify this part.
Another part of the construction was a trial assembly of the radiator and engine. This part was completely unsuccessful for the manufacturer and everyone who builds this model is waiting for a bit of modeling masochism.
They approach this problem differently in model forums, someone re-drills the frame and adjusts the length of the parts, someone cuts the front of the engine, I came up with this solution. This involves picking up with a milling cutter in the rear part of the radiator, approx. 2 mm and shortening the holder of the front part of the engine chest by another 2 mm. Now everything fits and I can start to clean all parts of this set perfectly.










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#5 Posted : 20 May 2020 19:34:04

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Very nice project Ruda. !! I'm keen to see how you adapt and improve the original Pocher. Great start.
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#6 Posted : 20 May 2020 20:50:25

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BigGrin Now that.........is nice! Drool
This is one build definitely worth following Love

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#7 Posted : 21 May 2020 12:06:02

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Looking good so far.BigGrin Pocher kits can be notorious to assemble; i have two Pocher kits myself. Take your time so everything fits well. Have you had a look at the Model Motor Car website? They have many photos as well as after market parts on there. You should check them out.

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#8 Posted : 21 May 2020 12:40:09

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Looking great so far.

A simple solution to the engine fitting, is only use the front two mounting holes on the engine mounts, but fix them to the rear two holes in the frames.
That way, the engine is about 6-7mm further back.
It doesn't affect anything else.
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#9 Posted : 22 May 2020 08:41:55

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Very nice kit, and a great start. I will be following with interest.Love

Mark
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#10 Posted : 22 May 2020 16:03:25

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Very nice start so far.I will be watching this.Pocher kits are wonderful, but as you say they are very frustrating to build.


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#11 Posted : 23 May 2020 10:18:46

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Great start, look forward to seeing more....Cool Cool

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#12 Posted : 30 May 2020 17:38:19

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A little easy continuation of the construction of Alfa Romeo is here.
After a long wait, I received Zero Pains and glossy varnish.
I blinded the differential with the gimbal case, it was quite a fight, the parts were very twisted, so it was time for a bath in hot water and a little violence. Everything now has the correct geometry and I was able to grind the whole thing and spray it with a surfacer.
After perfect drying and regrinding, I fitted the axle with leaf springs, wheel carriers and friction damper holders.
After considering all the pros and cons, I narrowed the heatsink by two millimeters, glued all the parts together, and sprayed the unit with a surfacer to detect imperfections in grinding and gluing.
The last point was to try one of the five rounds.
This part of the construction is quite demanding and will take a lot of time and test your nerves and patience.
Again, sometimes at the continuation of construction.







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#13 Posted : 05 June 2020 18:41:04

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Thank you to everyone who watches this building, I do it for you too.
I adjusted, folded and fitted the friction dampers.
Everything is just slightly folded, the final assembly will be after painting.
The main parts of the chassis are already starting to have a shape and it is better to work immediately when you see a forward movement.







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#14 Posted : 06 June 2020 09:42:08

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That is beautiful work.Love Love

Mark
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#15 Posted : 14 June 2020 12:10:30

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Slowly I start working on the engine.
I assembled the crankshaft with connecting rods and pistons.
Cleaning and culturing these parts took me a beautiful three hours of grinding, testing and gluing.
I slid the cylinder liners onto the pistons and tentatively lowered everything into the engine block.
It will still take a lighter adjustment to the inside of the engine block, but otherwise I'm happy.
Everything I do now is fully functional and of course none of it will be visible on the finished model, everything will be beautifully hidden, as with a real engine.
I love models from Pocher, you can be sure that you will model and think about what the manufacturer probably meant in that manual.








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#16 Posted : 22 June 2020 05:57:43

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Thank you very much for your comments.
I am glad that you are watching this construction and you support me in the next steps to the desired result.
It's raining, so I spent today at Alfa's building.
I sprayed the crank and pistons with a surfacer and a basic silver shade.
After perfect drying, I patinated all parts with oil paints.
I put everything together, put the cylinder liners on the pistons and put them in the engine block.
I glued the whole thing with solvent glue and screwed it on.
After drying for several days, I will have to grind and adjust the entire engine block.







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This build was good to begin with, but it just gets better and better Love Drool Love
Keep it up

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#18 Posted : 23 June 2020 08:39:12

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The detail on this kit is breathtaking, and you are certainly doing it justice. Excellent work.Love Drool

Mark
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#19 Posted : 30 November 2020 11:23:57

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After a long pause, the construction of the Alfa Romeo 8C Monza continues again.
I completely assembled the front axle with steering and mechanical brake control.
I put everything in its place and sprayed it with a surfacer from Tamiya.
I continued by cleaning and adjusting the brake drums and brake shoes.
This construction is running on a very long track, but I am all the more pleased with each progress on this model.








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#20 Posted : 30 November 2020 12:51:42

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Looking very impressive Ruda.
Glad to see you back on this one. Keep us posted...BigGrin
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