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Blame Ken... After seeing his Alfa build I was thinking of getting the same kit. Then this one popped up on Ebay - couldn't resist. Apologies for the naff picture. I'll be starting it shortly.  roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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That's an interesting one to build. Am i right that it's a kit from the 70's ? I'm keen to see how the part quality compares to the Fiat F2 that I'm building.
Malc.
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Hello Malc. Yes, it's '70's kit. I've built a good few of these old Pocher kits and although they are HUGE, the quality isn't that great. A massive parts count and tons to do, but also tons to put right. I resurrected a severely battered Fiat a few years ago. It's on the forum here somewhere. 
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OOH I havent seent one of these built in years. good luck with those wire wheels!!
Carl
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Looking forward to this Roy Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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roymattblack wrote:Hello Malc. Yes, it's '70's kit. I've built a good few of these old Pocher kits and although they are HUGE, the quality isn't that great. A massive parts count and tons to do, but also tons to put right. I resurrected a severely battered Fiat a few years ago. It's on the forum here somewhere. Hi Roy, I followed that Fiat restoration that you did, very nice job. I'm continuing work on my F2 ..... These 70's Pochers do have loads of parts but as you say loads to fix. The tooling and material quality was really nothing like today's products. That's the fun I guess .
Malc.
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Well, I've made a bit of a start on the engine. Loads of flash and sink marks to sort out as well as huge seam lines on everything. All part of the fun though. All the parts were painted before assembly began. There will be lots of linkages, wiring and pipework to add before much longer. roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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Great start on the engine roy Ken's the name modeling's the game.
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Thanks for looking in Ken. I've spent a chunk of time on this one over the past few days so here's where it's at, at the moment. I've started to add wiring but there is a lot more detail stuff yet to add. Cam covers black, as the Muletto wasn't always polished alloy... roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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I’ve been looking at my Pocher Alfa Coupe. Over the years I’ve been able to get most of the MMC bits, and it’s one of my must-builds. I had a Muletto, but sold it to a guy in Argentina. I’ve got a long stalled 8C-2300 Monza Mille Miglia conversion that’s really just waiting for the engine to be installed and all that happy radiator stuff to be done.
I’ll be lurking on this one.
Best,
Mark
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Righty-ho chaps. Time to get back on this one. I've assembled the steering box and modified it to fit better on the engine which will also solve the known issue of the metal steering arm fouling the frame later on. Side frames now cleaned up, flash and seams removed, primed and painted off-white. On we go... roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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Ok - back on this one again for a while. The frames have been assembled and the radiator is in place. Next up was to build the front axle and fit it. All the parts were painted first. Next job is the rear axle and suspension... roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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It's now starting to look like the basis of a car! Rear axle etc all painted and assembled and the engine is in place after modifying the location and moving it back by 10mm. If you build the kit as per the instructions, the engine is too far forward causing it to foul the radiator so that it affects the bonnet fitting later on. Such is the fun of these old Pocher kits. roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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I had this one, but let it go. I’ll be looking in with interest! Looks great so far, Roy!
Mark
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Great progress, looking forward to the next update
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Many thanks for looking in chaps. I decided it was time to have a go at the central body part as I wanted the seat trimmed in leather. (as usual) This entailed cutting the seat section out as it was moulded into the body. After a lot of scribing and cutting with a mini razor saw, the seat came out. It was then promptly cut into two parts. The back and the base. The parts were cleaned up and then covered in red leather. Ok, not prototypical but I thought the colour contrast would look good. I made a paper termplate for the seat back and then cut out the leather which was attached using powerful D/S tape. The parts were loosely reassembled and put into the body to check the fit. All ok there. The seat will be permanently fixed in place after the body has been properly sorted and painted. roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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I've been working on the firewall using pictures of a genuine car as reference. Let's just say the Pocher kit is a bit, errr, basic... No fuel pump, no pipework, no cables, no 'plumbing', not enough wiring for the fuse boxes, wrong decals... The first picture shows a Pocher kit very nicely built, but box-stock. After that, it's mine in stages. BTW - the wiring on the real car was actually all the same colour orangey/brown. roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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That is some beautiful work Roy and that cutting out of the seat from the body was a work of art in itself! I certainly wouldn't fancy that job! I sometimes wonder if the missing out of such important parts like the ones you've added to the firewall was a deliberate cost cutting exercise (but why with the price of the kits) or a simple mistake in forgetting to include them in during the design of the kit!  Either way, well done for a brilliant upgrade which makes all the difference. Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Many thanks Robin. It's surprising how many simple bits are missing from these big old Pocher classics considering how other details such as engine internals are there. Anyway, dashboard now sorted. Again, using referece of a real car, I've copied the engine turned metal effect for the dash. Simple really - a googled image of engine turn pattern, resized for scale and then printed on photo paper. Double sided tape, applied to the plastic dash part and then trimmed with a craft knife. Moving ahead with the body and seat etc next... roymattblack attached the following image(s):
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Very nice kit Roy, looking very nice. 
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