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Hi Everyone I have been a member of this forum since the start of the HMS Victory build and while my only real contribution has been the odd question or two I have been feeling rather "guilty" lately in that I seem to be taking out more than I put in. I am still in full time work so between that and looking after my disabled Father Time is not something I find much of. One of my big failings is a total lack of confidence and sees me start many a project that never gets completed: My Victory being a good example - Got as far as that RIB 15 issue and all came to a stop. I have subscribed to SotS and that is progressing well and I really do want that project to succeed. I used to belong (some years ago) to a local IPMS group but we had 2 very skilled members (one still contributes articles on a regular basis to many of the model magazines) but one of these was so "fanatical" that every rivet had to be correct on a kit in the end I gave up as this attitude was totally defeating. Used to put together mainly tanks and felt on the whole quite pleased with my efforts until I came up against the expert. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against creative criticism - it’s how we learn - but this guy’s attitude was really quite destructive. Anyhow that’s enough about me for now (some might say for a lifetime ). I purchased last year the Artisania Latina kit called RED DRAGON CHINESE JUNK and these are a few pictures I would like to share with you. A good few things I have done wrong during the build, and still a long way from getting it completed but hopefully I will get there in the end. File Attachment(s): birdaj2 attached the following image(s): Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette) COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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Beautiful build and a credit to you!
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Hi, Absolutely stunning!! Quality photos aswell. Can not wait to see your SOTS build on the build diary forum. Claret. Also working on: SOTS. Moebius 1/32 Flying Sub with PE & lights.
Waiting in the wings: Polarlights Spindrift from Land of the Giants.
finished: 007 Iconic DB5.
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That is absolutely stunning!!!!!
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Tomick wrote:Beautiful build and a credit to you! Hi Birdaj2, the build quality of your work is superb and and an example to us all. I'm sorry that you feel you lack the confidence, but it certainly doesn't show in your work - you must be really proud of your achievement, and I for one would love to see your builds finished. Keep it up matey, you've 'shivered me timbers'. I, and I suspect, many more of us on this forum would love to see more of your builds - keep them coming. Happy building David
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I cant see anything wrong with your modeling skills!! That is looking fab! :-)
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You may lack in time, but definitely not in the skills department and should definitely not in the confidence department. WOW this looks brilliant and pretty authentic. Can't wait to see your other builds. Well done. Rgds, Hans "It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully" Current Build: Endeavour Cross section,D51 Completed: HMS Victory Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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I am sick sick sick,when something like this comes along,museum quality,and skill no wonder the "expert" was so destructive,he was green with envy,that sir is the best model on here,and want to see a lot more of your builds,and give us all a treat,I am now retreating to the dunces corner and have a good cry.then I will come back a better builder for it,I salute you sir. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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I can only agree with all the above comments. Simply stunning work. As for your other builds I would love to see them on this forum. There are really helpfull members on this forum who do not critisciss other peoples work and will give advise freely. I hope all the posts on your build will make you start on your victory again. Ian. Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood. Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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Dam fine splendid, looking work there. 10/10.
Mo 👍 Mo
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karl1113 wrote:I am sick sick sick,when something like this comes along,museum quality,and skill no wonder the "expert" was so destructive,he was green with envy,that sir is the best model on here,and want to see a lot more of your builds,and give us all a treat,I am now retreating to the dunces corner and have a good cry.then I will come back a better builder for it,I salute you sir. Thankyou to everyone that has looked in on my pictures today and left such wonderful comments - it really is appreaciated more than you will ever know. I am certainly no expert and have made a number of errors as I have gone along. Believe it or not this is only the second build I have progressed with - my first (to help me learn planking) was the Caldercraft CHatham Yatcht. Its not gone as well as I wanted and at this moment resides in a cupboard waiting to be looked at again. This particular model took my fancy 1. because it was a cheap buy from ebay, and 2 I rather liked the mottling on the wood. The lower half is sapele (so the same as SotS will be providing). The white wood is listed in the guide as Mukali (cannot say I have ever heard of it before). For the deck caulking I used Black Quilling paper which took an age but turned out pretty well. Everyones kind comments have given me a bit more drive so hopefully over the coming weeks I will be able to add to this diary to show you how this model progresses. Kind regards Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette) COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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Where have you been hiding that one, very impressive and high degree of workmanship. A BLATANT BEAUTY HMS Surprise HMS Snake HMS Bounty HMS Royal Caroline HMS Victory rebuild HMS Supply
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Hi there birdaj2 I can only agree with all the comments above, she's a real beauty and one of the cleanest builds I've ever seen. With those skills you should definately go back and finish your Victory and post up your SOTS build as well! Was the Dragon a double planked kit or single planked? My own Grimsby was single plank and all the hull was Sapele, its a beautiful wood when its been varnished, almost like mahogany (but probably cheaper!) Keep on with your building, skills like yours shouldn't be hidden away and Yah Boo Sucks to that so-called expert! Best Wishes Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Hi Birdaj2 Faultless work there and something to be proud of and remember even we so called experts can make mistakes too regards Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Wow I really like that I made an airfix junk in the 70s with me dad but that out classes it by miles “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Hi After all the above comments the only thing I can possibly add is:- WTG I bow to your skill and mastery Regards Delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Plymouth57 wrote:Hi there birdaj2 I can only agree with all the comments above, she's a real beauty and one of the cleanest builds I've ever seen. With those skills you should definately go back and finish your Victory and post up your SOTS build as well! Was the Dragon a double planked kit or single planked? My own Grimsby was single plank and all the hull was Sapele, its a beautiful wood when its been varnished, almost like mahogany (but probably cheaper!) Keep on with your building, skills like yours shouldn't be hidden away and Yah Boo Sucks to that so-called expert! Best Wishes Robin Robin Many thanks for the comments. Sat here tonight feeling well pleased I posted some pictures. To be jonestown I have no one to share my hobbies with so I have become very critical of my own work, a case of looking at the instructions and thinking " yours don't look like that so its no good". I have even opened the "cupboard of doomed builds" tonight and had a look again at my very first ever build the caldercraft Chatham yatcht. On the whole it probable is passable and I may post some pictures soon to see if forum members thing it's a bin job or worth saving. To answer your question this model is double planked. To be honest it was a fairly straight word job in that next to no tapering was required. Started with what the instructions call Samba wood. Looks like lime to me but I am no expert on these points. 1.5 x 5mm was the thickness of these strips. Over this it was 0.6 x 5mm sapele. Have a couple of areas of concern: one is the supplied cannon. They are traditional canons but without wheels. Look rubbish so I bought some caldercraft wheeled canon in the correct scale - problem they sit to high for the barrels to go through the ports unless the barrels are aimed at the fish! Also made a mess of the first sail. Bought some fabric glue which went on like a rubberised flour and water. Looked awful so had to buy some Amati sail cloth and must now decide how I will seam these (full credit to deagostini for made sails on the victory kit). Hope you can see lots of issues and problems but I guess that is the nature of these sort of models. Many thanks again for your kind comments Tony Kind regards Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette) COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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Nothing i can add to whats already been said Fantastic looking build immaculate A credit to your hard work and dedication Will look forward to your next project
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Hi Tony With regards to your sails, I too used a fabric glue on the full set of sails on the Grimsby and also on the sails on my brother's DelPrado Bounty, I've been trying to find the tube but with no luck so I can't tell you which make it was (I bought it in Woolworths so that's that outlet gone forever!) It wasn't too bad to use but had to be sparingly applied or it stained the sail fabric slightly darker. All the stitching on the sails I did by hand, very laborious and I definately needed a thimble! I just couldn't get the hang of mum's sewing machine to get straight lines! The slowest part was probably sewing on the bolt rope which runs right around the edges of the sail. When I've repaired the broken rigging on Grimsby I'll get her on the finished builds (never leave a fully rigged ship in the attic where the changes in temperature can snap threads like nobody's business!!) An easier option to do the sail's hems might be the newer iron-on tapes sold in haberdashery shops, all it should need is a very thin strip cut to size and a quick iron. I might try that on Bounty's remaining mainsails if I can't find my glue (its probably gone hard after all this time anyway!) Best of Luck Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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