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#201 Posted : 23 October 2012 22:30:54

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Got a couple to replys on the general disscussion board, re the columns, I will file down to size and fit in place.

Been having a bit of a hard time today trying to fit the ropes to the cannons, This is the rope from the bulwarks through the eye on the cannon barrel,

I did the first one with thread that just looked to thin, So I found some thread a bit thicker and used it, I am still not very happy,
From the pictures below you can see that I held the eye in the pinching tool, and tied a knot and glued it to secure it, This give me one end done, I bored holes to recieve the eyes in the bulwarks and glued in the eye, I then passed the rope through the eye in the cannon barrel, I glued the other eye in the other hole in the bulwark, but my problem was I could not tie this off, so I took the easy road out and just glued it in place and cut of the excess. Very sloppy. But it will not bee seen on the lower deck.
What I should have done, and I will be doing for the cannons on the top deck, is to prepare a length of rope, with eyes knotted and glued at each end, with a eye loose on the rope between the end eyes,All I will have to do then is bore the bulwarks, glue in the eyes to the bulwarks, and glue in the pin to the cannon barrel. Should be a lot earier and it will look the part.



Having a problem with Photo Bucket, they have changed the format of there page, another learning curve to get over, will post the pict's soon.

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#202 Posted : 23 October 2012 22:44:44

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#203 Posted : 24 October 2012 22:47:12

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Got the plastic fitted to the windows, Not a great match what was supplied, the plastic and the plywood. You can see slightly the black edge of the paint on the plastic in the corners,





I have now finished the cannons on the lower deck, I have glued all the deck furniturs down, and I have fitted the elm wood pumps to the deck, I will order some small buckets to lay beside the pumps, and I am going to put some barrels on the lower deck just to add some detail to it.





I have now glued the lower mast shrouds to the holes in the deck, and have glued the deck support beams in place.







Over and out for now

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#204 Posted : 25 October 2012 07:36:20

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Hi Mo, doing great work, your build looks Great mate.
Regards

Rob

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#205 Posted : 25 October 2012 08:37:28

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Hi Mo Good stuffBigGrin what size are those gallery windows? I wondering if the ply parts that contain the windows on the Victory enhancement would fit the surprise? I could just supply you with those parts.

I have also sourced a ships wheel (10 spoke) in brass etch 1/48 scale for my Endeavour, which I believe is the same scale as the surprise?

Kind Regards Mike
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#206 Posted : 25 October 2012 19:32:30

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nice work mo, the cannon coils look great. the gallery could look better, but thats not your fault, you can only work with the parts you get, unless you pay for alternatives. if mikes gallery bits were to fit i think they would make a great enhancement.

keep up the good work
Come on you Jimmies
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#207 Posted : 25 October 2012 20:35:07

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Your right Saintsman, the gallery windows are crap, I have sent Mike a pm on the subject of the enhancement. I. will take even if only some bits fit, any kind of enhancement would help distract you from the plastic windows, but I am really happy how its looking for a newbie, I honestly did not think I could turn out something as good as this,

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#208 Posted : 25 October 2012 21:29:11

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Today was a big day for me today in the boatyard, It was time to glue the top deck in place. I glued it up and stuck it on, No more access to the lower deck.





I have pre made 3 boards joined together for the bulwarks, I gave them 3 coats of red ochre as well, this will limit the work I have to do in situ.



I have also done quite a bit of work on the rudder, another job I have been dreading, But it is surprising just how it all comes together, Firstly I clad the walnut rudder with some 05 mm planking.



Once it was dry I shaped it to the profile and sanded it up, I also used a triangular file and put some V'd grooves between the planks, I gave it a sand up and a coat of danish oil.



I then made an attempt at making the hinges, I have not fitted them yet, but am really happy with them.



















I have also removed all the clamps and glad to say the deck has stuck firm to the frames. I have now trimmed around the opening with the walnut timbers.







I like to do my log often, and to let everyone see what and how I am doing things, everybody elses logs have really helped me to achieve what I thought was not possible, Thanks Again.

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#209 Posted : 25 October 2012 21:34:33

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I ment to say in my post, Where the bulwarks stop short in the middle of the boat, at the lower level, my planking to the frames did not quite come up to the lavel of the deck, as you can see I have had to add a extra plank on, I will sand this flush with the floor as and when the glue is dry.

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Hi Mo could any thing be used from this? I know not the brass etch

windows on the transom are 10mm x 10mm, too12mm x 12mm.

on the side same again tatal side ht is 80 cm, width is 50mm.

Regards Mike
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#211 Posted : 25 October 2012 21:50:29

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its hard to keep up with your diary with the speed of your work, i was told once that you can have a good build or you can have a fast build, but you can't have a good fast build, i have never believed it.and your build proves you can have both.
Come on you Jimmies
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#212 Posted : 25 October 2012 21:59:31

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Saintsman, I am not working just now, I am recovering from having a metal plate removed from my leg, and it has got a bit infected as well, so not really doing a lot work wise, and I really enjoy doing my build, I am glad that people can keep up with the build. I like to keep on top of my log,

Thanks it's always nice to get comments.

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#213 Posted : 25 October 2012 22:13:01

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Thanks Mike for you help, I think I will just stick with what I've got, by the time I have fitted the columns between the windows it will do, I have learnt so much from this forum, and I plan to do another build after this one, But I am not going to think about another build untill this one if complete, Don't think I could handle building 2 or 3 at a time.

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#214 Posted : 26 October 2012 00:47:35

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Hello Mo, she's coming along nicely well done ThumpUp The detail on the lower deck is really good it's a shame you have to glue the upper deck on but at least you can see it all through the upper deck openings and gratings.

The more log updates the better keep um coming and I hope the leg gets better soon at least you have the build to keep you busy.

Cheers

Chris

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DeAgostini HMS Victory
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#215 Posted : 27 October 2012 22:39:23

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I have now put the finishing timbers around the cut out to the upper deck, I have also given them a coat of Danish Oil, I have just applied the oil with a bit of kitchen roll.







I have then made a start on the bulwarks to the upper decks, using the pre made board, which is 3 planke high, and pre painted.





These are the first pins I have used on my build.

It was then on to the rudder, First I put masking tape on the rudder to draw out the centers for the hinges.



I have also used a file to sink the hinges into the rudder.



I then procedd to fix the hinges to the rudder, I bored holes in the rudder at the correct place, I used a small bevel stock to ensure the hinges were parrallel to the water line, I had to snip the pins to length and super glued in place.









I also had to bore a hole in the ship to take the rudder stalk, I also had to round of the top of the rudder to form a dowel shape, again giving it a coat of the good old Danish.



I messed up a bit next, but I think I will be ok, In my hinges I have put the pins in from the bottom up, I should have had them from the top down, there is a small chance they might fall out, I used masking tape to hold all the bits of the hinges together, and bored and pinned the other bits of the hinges to the hull.









Again I have surprised myself at the end results. Very very happy with it.

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#216 Posted : 27 October 2012 23:12:58

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there maybe trouble ahead, I am getting a new computer tomorrow, I have bought myself a Apple Mac, there will be a steep learning curve for me, so it may take me a while to set it up and get used to all the new formats etc, will post again when all is set up,

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#217 Posted : 28 October 2012 11:29:57

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BigGrin Top work on the rudder Mo and gl with the mac Blink Cool
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#218 Posted : 28 October 2012 14:50:36

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Hurry back Mo, there is some good work going on there.Cool
HMS Surprise
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#219 Posted : 31 October 2012 18:09:53

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This is a test from my new computer.


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#220 Posted : 31 October 2012 19:00:25

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Looks like its working fine Mo.BigGrin
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