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William Butler, dummy cannons I came up with this idea some time ago but never needing to put it into practice haven't bothered with it till now, so its been bouncing around my head for quite a while, I've searched the Internet and looked on lots of ship modeling sites and never seen this method used. First of all I would like to say that the deag Vic and S.O.T have full decks right through the ship and to block them out with dummy cannon beams seems a waste, so we are going to build cannons that you can easily make to put in their place, you can make these cannons as simple as you like, or for those lighting up the model you can fully rig the cannons yes even rig through the thimble and everything will be OK this is the tools you will use. willz attached the following image(s):
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this is the materials you need, a dummy cannon and a dummy cannon beam. willz attached the following image(s):
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On with the tutorial. First take the piece of cannon beam and half round the top the length of a cannon with a diamond file, then put a centre point in the radius with a pointed object, ( I used my file) and then with a 2 mm bit drill a hole about 10 mm deep, care is needed when drilling the hole, just take your time and keep it straight and true. Then try in the dummy cannon to see if all's OK. willz attached the following image(s):
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Next with a full cannon mark out where to cut your piece and round the back down, the next four pics illustrate this. This is enough detail for the barrel in a model with no lighting willz attached the following image(s):
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For those lighting up the model you can always add more detail, in the next pic I shaped the rear and cut in a thimble, no real need for a thimble but got a bit giddy. Also ran my triangular file down the side to shape the barrel. willz attached the following image(s):
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Onto the carriages. With a clean piece of cannon beam (no radius) I ran a pencil down the sides and over the top using the old finger and pencil routine. See pic Then with the piece in a vice cut the front, with the saw tilted upwards following the line see pic, when the front is cut turn the piece round in the vice and follow the line at the back letting the razor saw settle in the cut already made on the other side see pic dont cut the pieces off at this point willz attached the following image(s):
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Next look at the cuts in both sides of the piece, one is usually more central than the other, if so the one that is more central will be the top of our carriage. The next pic shows the deag hms victory carriage I used for a template, yours will be from whatever ship your cannons are for. willz attached the following image(s):
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Before we cut the pieces off the beam we will shape the carriages, The first pic shows just one cut down the steppy shape of the carriage with a razor saw, this is all thats needed with a model with no lights but again its simple to carry on and add more detail. Second pic. When happy with shape cut them both off the piece leaving you with two identical halves. willz attached the following image(s):
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On with the base Still using the dummy cannon beam I used the deag carriage base as a template, notice I didn't go right to the rear of the base, this saves on material and with its bulk wouldn't look right at the rear. willz attached the following image(s):
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Then with the base and sides flush at the front I glued them together and left to dry, with the thickness of the base this is very easy to do,
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Gave the barrel a dry fit and tried in the dummy, decided to run my triangular file round the barrel as to make it look like rings then painted, willz attached the following image(s):
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After looking at it for a while couldn't help myself, needed wheels, so dug out some 5 mm dowel and set to work on the lathe, made a small cutter to shape the axle, (getting giddy again) no need for this extravagance you can just slice them off with a razor saw at the thickness needed, then just glue to sides flush with the bottom, you donut want the wheels lifting the carriage off the floor, in the finished pics it looks like the wheels are holding the carriage up but I can assure you their not, the front and sides have been painted out black and the rear has cuts in the sides to make it look like its off the floor and on wheels willz attached the following image(s):
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You can drill a hole through the base and into the wooden barrel for a secret steel or brass dowel
To secure the cannon down
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The cannon in this tutorial is pointing out level, you can raise the barrel by cutting the base at a different angle see pic willz attached the following image(s):
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Is this the end of the black wall dummy cannons
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Lovely work once again Willz and thanks again for sharing...  Regards Alan
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Nice work Willz  Regards Alan England expects that every man will do his duty.
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thanks lads, one last thing, when the cannon is glued in position on the deck dont forget to take off the dummy end, put it away for safe keeping and only when the model is completely finished glue the dummy back to the cannon. willz attached the following image(s):
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Amazing willz. I wouldn't dream of building these.
John
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Good job Willz, excellent idea, thank you. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
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